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"Walkin' on the Sun" and "All Star" vocalist announced his retirement in 2021

STEVE HARWELL, WHO cofounded the band Smash Mouth in 1994, has died at the age of 56, band manager Robert Hayes confirmed. The musician, best known for hits like “All Star” and “I’m a Believer,” died at his home in Boise, ID “surrounded by family and friends.”

Harwell had been in hospice care following medical complications. The cause of death was liver failure, Hayes told Rolling Stone.

Hayes said Harwell “passed peacefully and comfortably.” In a statement to Rolling Stone, he offered a lengthy tribute to the artist, who was a staple of ’90s rock music and saw success with multiple albums and singles.

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[–] justhach@lemmy.world 219 points 2 years ago (3 children)

He was right.

The years start coming, and they simply do not stop coming.

RIP King

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whoever told him the world was gonna roll him was pretty sharp

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"It's a cool place and they say it gets colder
You're bundled up now, wait 'til you get older"

Steve Harwell was a prophet.

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[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 years ago

And they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

This version is the best for "they don't stop coming"

https://youtu.be/eT3BFzSD6YY?si=ZVEbkr0S0RL9nh5j

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 78 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t see many compliments about Steve like the outpouring of love for people like Paul Reubens when they die, so I just wanted to share some nice words about him.

My sister saw Smash Mouth and 3rd Eye Blind together in 1997 and Steve called out to the crowd “FUCK MARILYN MANSON.” I was taken aback at the time but realized he was basically calling out the focus on darkness, anger, self harm, violence etc in Marilyn’s music and the effect on the world (especially youth), vs positivity, togetherness. The music he’s put out seems to have embodies this.

You don’t read a lot about his personal life or cutesy fan interaction ala Bill Murray or Keanu…but by all accounts he is a kind and humble guy. He seems to have struggled a lot with alcohol and mental health but loved to party and have a good time.

I hope more people speak about with good things to say about him. I have a feeling he was a great guy we didn’t know very well.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 158 points 2 years ago (15 children)

He lost me when I saw him in a video trashed while singing and throwing up Nazi salutes and insulting the crowd. You can blame the alcohol all you want, but Nazi salutes are a line you don't cross. So I dunno what happened to all his positivity, but it's been long gone.

[–] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 127 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sturgis Motorcycle Rally/Superspreader Event. As a healthcare provider during the pandemic, I lost any desire to hear All Star ever again.

https://datebook.sfchronicle.com/music/motorcycle-rally-where-smash-mouth-played-was-a-superspreader-event-report-says

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That was the event that caused me to lose respect for them. I loved their music before that and was happy to see them gain popularity after Shrek and sad to see that popularity turn against them when radio shows overplayed All Star.

But then they headlined what I saw as the symbol of the lack of resilience a portion of the population had and removed them from my playlists and don't let my mind dwell on their songs anymore.

And now I'm wondering if covid was a factor in his death. Even if his heart condition wasn't caused by it in the first place, covid does a number on the heart and other organs, and I wonder if it took years off his life.

RIP, I'll let go of those feelings now.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He died of liver failure, it was the drinking that did him in. Wasn't COVID it was the alcohol.

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[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

When that video a few years ago went viral of him trying to sing (not at Sturgis) but being just absolutely to fucked up to even know where he was, there was a lot of talk about he went off the deep end drinking when his kid died. He was diagnosed with Wernicke- Korsakoff syndrome ("wet brain") from drinking ten years before Sturgis.

Wernicke’s encephalopathy has several potential symptoms. The most common issues are:

A confused mental state, ataxia, or loss of the ability to coordinate voluntary muscle movement, double vision or other changes in your normal vision

People with Korsakoff syndrome may also experience visual or auditory hallucinations. In addition, they may make up false stories without consciously meaning to deceive. Other symptoms are also possible. For example, you may undergo unusual changes in your normal behavior. You may also experience fatigue and an inability to concentrate. In addition, you may walk unsteadily or feel disoriented or delirious.

[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was/is an alcoholic (now sober) and I never resorted to Nazi salutes at my worst lol. I didn't even think about that shit

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I drank professionally for about 15 years and I also never once endorsed genocide. It's really easy to do. All you have to do is be a normal person to whom it would never occur as an idea in the first place.

edit: lol @ the two downvotes who were like "not endorsing genocide is a constant struggle"

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[–] greendakota99@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I had the Astro Lounge CD day of release and remember playing the whole album on repeat playing Ape Escape the summer of 99 as a 14yo. 24 years later and I wish I could inject that feeling into my veins somehow for even just 5 minutes. Maybe I should try meth? /s

[–] jay9@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] MalachaiConstant@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

If anything can, it's mdma

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[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fentanyl is far cheaper and comes in pill form!

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[–] AzuleBlade@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Probably heroin..../s

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[–] KingJalopy@lemmy.zip 55 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Damn I just heard he was sick last night.

[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same. They kept it extremely quiet. The band is now touring with a new vocalist and honestly the new song they put out is alright. Nothing earthshattering but it's an alright song.

[–] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think he retired a while ago after that fiasco with the Nazi salute

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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

The band probably knew more about it than the general public did.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

I think the writing's been on the wall for a bit

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[–] decadentrebel@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

All-Star brought attention to Mystery Men, which is a criminally underrated movie. So, that's another reason to like that song.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Finally someone who knows what's up with mystery men. Every single actor in that movie is a star.

[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Also sad about Paul Reubens. He was perfect for the Spleen.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Don't forget Shrek

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He brought a lot of joy. Name a millenial or Gen X'er thT doesn't know All Star!

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[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Didn't make sense not to live for fun
Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb"
-Steve Harwell (1967-2023)

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

And every single day is just a fling. Then the morning comes.

— Steve Harwell

[–] dystop@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

RIP. He wasn't all there towards the end, what with the drinking and the Nazi stuff and the COVID denial/antivax stuff, but Smash Mouth had such a big impact on the world.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Did they? They were one hit wonders who - except for some covid controversy - are now more known in tandem with Shrek rather than independently.

[–] cylon_jg@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Depends on location and generation, perhaps. They were the soundtrack to my summers in the late 90s/early 00s in Southern California, always on the radio. I didn't know he'd gone off the deep end - sad.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Smash mouth were not one-hit wonders. "Walking' on the sun", "Then the morning comes", "I'm a believer" (ok that's technically also a Shrek song), and "Can't get enough of you baby" were also Top 40 hits.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago

Wow. RIP buddy.

I had a friend pass away from sudden liver failure about 5 or 6 years ago. I had dinner with him on Monday, saw a Facebook post on Friday that he went into the hospital on Wednesday and was dead before I saw the post.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I posted a video of him looking like hell and trashed during a concert/event like a year or two ago. He looked roooough.

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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Damn it’s been a big year for celebrity deaths

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