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Summary

Senator Bernie Sanders condemned Trump’s order to freeze all federal loans and grants, calling it a “dangerous move towards authoritarianism” and “blatantly unconstitutional.”

The directive, exempting Social Security and Medicare, is expected to impact universities, nonprofits, food assistance programs, health centers, and disabled veterans.

Sanders emphasized that Congress holds the “power of the purse” and urged Americans to oppose the order.

Attorneys general are preparing legal challenges to overturn the freeze.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 101 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

According to the Supreme Court, he is a king. I do not know why everyone hasn’t been absolutely freaking out about that ruling since it came down. According to that court, he is allowed to do literally anything as long as it’s an official act. This is not a rules-based society anymore.

[–] geissi@feddit.org 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Weirdly enough, many if not most kings in history were not absolute monarchs and had to follow some rules and expectations or risk losing their power (and possibly life).

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I read a book not too long ago with a line along the lines of "every nation is in some ways a republic". It was in the context of someone trying to convince a monarch on a course of action, but they hadn't realized their opponent had already convinced everyone directly below the monarch to do the opposite. There was no outcome where the monarch's decision mattered, because without their knowledge their choice was actually going to impact if they got to keep their throne.

The constitution is just an established set of rules. The president is only the person those rules say gets to do certain things. Political power grows from the barrel of a gun, but at its core it is the ability to make people use those guns and to ensure that the only consequences they face are a pension and maybe a medal.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You know what we do to kings?

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Live under their rule until they appoint another king/queen and then they die.

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago
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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 89 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel bad for Bernie. I never agreed with his politics 100% across the board but I have the utmost respect for the man. He has stuck to his guns basically since he started. It's a real shame the Democrats shot him down to shove Hillary down our throats in 2016.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 107 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That was basically the moment when it became apparent that the Dems chose oligarchy. Had they let Bernie run and win, we wouldn’t be in this predicament. Had they chosen to prosecute crime instead of protect wealth, we wouldn’t be in this predicament.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but to prosecute crime would have involved going after many of their own voters and donors.

[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Gasp!

Integrity? Can't have that!

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's the last politician that legitimately had integrity? Besides Bernie.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

She voted against the railroad workers strike, so nah. She sold out to the DNC for a chance at power only for Pelosi to go assist her anyway.

She's still one of the best politicians y'all have though. But that bar is so low it's underground, so...

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ehhhhhh. I like her somewhat. I appreciate that she calls shit out instead of trying to PR speak everything all the time.

But she has been caught lying or misrepresenting data a handful of times (I mean what political figure has ever told the truth 100% of the time).

That Photoshoot of her crying at the border just really rubbed me the wrong way. She could have posted photos of the actual camps or tried to shed light on the situation in a more direct way. The photos of her fake crying at some chain link fence just really sst wrong with me and it still does.

Not that she's the first politician that ever staged a photo op in the history of the world, but I expect better from her ya know?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The handcuff photo-op she did was ridiculous

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We all make mistakes. Maybe she will becomes someone we can actually root for in the future. Who knows.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

I hope so. I fear her becoming a career politician, and the downsides that can create. We'll see. Hopefully she'll be good.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's important to be critical of people we support, but it's also important not to throw the baby away with the bathwater.

OK, she took a photo you don't like. Who the fuck cares? It's politics. Does her policy positions agree with yours? That's what's important, not what she does to get attention on social media.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I care more about posting fake crying photos for brownie points than I do about minor policy disagreements. It shows a real lack of integrity and character when any politicians pose for bullshit pictures to try and garner sympathy/attention or votes. It's pathetic and insulting to my intelligence.

I have my gripes with her policies, but no more or less than I do for any other politicians. I think she plays some stupid games with some of the things she says, but I also really appreciate when she goes after other career politicians who just sit around and do nothing, but collect a paycheck.

I think she's a little misguided at times and like one of the other comments said I fear she's going to go down the Hillary Clinton route and not the Bernie sanders route.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 54 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unless someone actually does something, he effectively is a king.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Blasts! Slams! Eviscerates!

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'd quite like to see him face serious consequences for once

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 9 months ago

Sliced! Diced! Julien-fries'd!

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago

If they just follow his orders and there's no consequences for laws walked over in the process then it isn't really illegal is it?
I fucking hate this timeline.

[–] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 27 points 9 months ago

So anyway bernie started blasting

[–] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 27 points 9 months ago

I'm sure it's not legal, but I don't think that matters anymore.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure the constitution outlines this sort of changes in budget and allocation as Congress' sole authority.

I just gave it a quick read-through and it doesn't state anywhere in Article II that he has the power to do this, and further he is required by Article II Section 3 to enforce all laws passed by congress. This is supposedly the section that they used to Impeach Bill Clinton, as his perjury in a civil case was considered breaking the law and therefor failing to enforce it.

Fun fact, the new admin has removed the Constitution from the website, promises to put it back eventually.

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Read the whole thing this morning thanks to Leejay over on Patreon, you can also listen to her read the whole thing as well has highlight and explain parts of it here: https://youtu.be/VoNp_ExiOyI

I recommend we all read it wherever you like. But read it nonetheless. Unfortunately it's not that long.

But yeah he doesn't have this power according to our constitution.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

He is a king and all that stuff about taxes and representation and kings has been tossed by the people.

This is what they want.

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is nothing that dumpy is doing that cannot be undone or re-done by a future president.

Relying on a president that changes every 4-8 years to make overwhelming changes is going to cause a lot of issues. If we thought government was dysfunctional before, just wait until it's maliciously dysfunctional.

[–] pollodehule@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think all the suffering brought on by his stupid, selfish, cruel decisions can't just be "fixed" by the next president.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I may not personally be a fan of Bernie (hes a centrist and im a leftist) but he would be an absolutely incredible compromise candidate (granted ideally we would not need to compromise with capitalists). Sadly even a compromise between labor and capital is "too much" for the ruling class.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 21 points 9 months ago

Bernie isn't perfect, but he's been the only candidate who holds some left-leaning ideologies without being totally impossible to elect.

It's too bad he got shut down for Hillary, and now he's much too old to start a pres. term.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't Trump f**King a porn star?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes. Not sure why this is relevant here though.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

With the definition the GOP uses he is married to a porn star as well, also not relevant here, but if we are on the topic

[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I have so many friends in conservation that will be losing their job.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago

The loans part doesn't even make sense, thats money that will be paid back

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
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