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It isn’t racist enough, so he has to take over and train it on nazi propaganda.

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[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 189 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (12 children)

not even one-third of the valuation openai thinks they're worth (up to 340b). and still below what investors thought in 2022 (157b). src

i think this is old spice admitting that xAI is total bullshit and he's giving up on making his own.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I thought this was because he’s still pissy they cut him out, but I guess his reasons can be multifaceted

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[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 100 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Elon’s $97.4B hostile takeover bid for OpenAI is less about “safety” and more about a billionaire’s corporate tantrum. The offer reeks of desperation—a laughable lowball for a company valued at $340B, dressed as altruism.

Altman’s clapback—“buy Twitter for $9.74B”—is the perfect middle finger to Musk’s flailing empire. Remember when X became a $44B dumpster fire? Now he wants to drag OpenAI into his orbit of mismanaged toys.

This feud isn’t about AI ethics—it’s two tech oligarchs weaponizing legal battles and PR stunts. Musk’s “open-source” crusade is safety theater while his own xAI hoards code. The only winner here? Lawyers billing hourly as the world burns.

[–] boramalper@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

To be clear (and as far as I understand), it’s not a hostile takeover bid because it cannot be: OpenAI is not a public company and thus doesn’t have a fiduciary duty to thousands to millions of shareholders but instead to a handful of big investors who can decide for themselves whether they want that Elon’s money or not. So this isn’t similar to what Twitter had been through but more like Elon teasing Altman I believe.

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The distinction you’re making is valid but misses the forest for the trees. Whether OpenAI is public or not, Musk’s bid is a textbook power play, not a genuine offer. The lack of fiduciary duty doesn’t erase the intent—it amplifies it. This isn’t about shareholder obligations; it’s about Musk leveraging his wealth to reshape AI governance in his image.

Comparing this to Altman’s jab at Twitter isn’t apples-to-apples. Altman’s point was rhetorical, highlighting Musk’s track record of overpromising and underdelivering. The “open-source” crusade Musk touts is hollow when xAI remains proprietary.

This isn’t about legality or structure—it’s about influence and control. Dressing it up as altruism insults anyone paying attention.

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[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 73 points 5 months ago (3 children)

He bought Twitter for 44 billion... and the US presidency for 290 million.

That is the single most dystopian shit I have ever heard. The idea that people and countries are so dirt cheap and companies are orders of magnitude more valuable is a thing that should damn their souls to hell.

You how bad this is affecting me? I've been an atheist and anti-death penality most of my life... Musk has for the past while made me think that the death penalty needs to be applied to people like him (and Israeli war criminals) and not to common crooks and common murderers. He is even making me want a hell to exist so people like him can burn in it.

[–] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 25 points 5 months ago (3 children)

and the US presidency for 290 million.

So, about a dollar per American.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Everyone should've chipped in with a dollar and you'd have your own country! /s

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 62 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Shortly after the news was announced, Altman posted on X: “no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want.”

If only their slapfight meant something good for the world. At least, I don't see everything collected in Musk's hands.

[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

Lmao "Twitter"

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He can afford to pay twice the price of Twitter because he's using government money. Remember he barely swung the 44 billion for Twitter. Now he's buying something for more than double that? After putting code into the Treasury department computers to hide transactions?

Lmao.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah so he's again going to pay twice the amount of what it's worth to then run of off a cliff and make it worth 20% of it's real value within a years time?

Seriously, why do people still believe anything this scammer says?

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[–] Canigou@jlai.lu 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Where is the "hide Musk/DOGE/Trump related posts" button ?

EDIT : Found it ! (Damn, Lemmy is awesome 😊)

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Bro, I think you just wiped out your entire front page.

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[–] Xuderis@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

I guess grok isn’t doing so well.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But remember, all of his wealth is only potential, not realized! He ackshually can't afford to make the world a better place!

[–] maplebar@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

The best and most affordable way for Elon Musk to "make the world a better place" would be to drop dead.

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[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago (5 children)

This is corporate trolling. Open AI is trying to go public soon, and Elon did this to fuck with that.

Massive oversimplification but basically: In the United States, you are required to take the best offer when selling a company, unless you can argue in court that you had reasons not to sell to whomever placed the highest bid. Because of this offer, as open AI attempts to go public, they will have to either to be close to Elon's bid, forced to sell to him, go to court and fight him ther, or be forced to remain private.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

YES!

Finally a way to destroy the AI hype.

Maybe the man is good for something besides wasting oxygen after all.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

As long as he pays for it, and not the US taxpayer....

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How the fuck would we know? He has access to pretty much everything and has shown absolute contempt for the other branches that can stop him. He could drain social security, and no one would be the wiser till payments stopped.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Interesting that he's making this offer now, isn't it. Almost like he's recently got access to a large sum of money.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 27 points 5 months ago (4 children)

even if openai are assholes, chatgpt is still useful for things as long as you dont put too much trust in it. If that fucker buys it they will turn it into racist shitspewing garbage. Without it, regular people will have no decent or easy way to utilize ai and this new tech will benefit only the rich who will use it to oppress us even worse.

Stinky isnt an idiot, i wish he was. Anything he buys he can and will use to cause harm to us. So this would be bad for us all.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Regular users can use Gemini, Deepseek, Meta AI, and there will probably be many more services in the future.

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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 5 months ago

Couldn't even pay for twitter himself, that broke ass

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

"NaziAI" has a real ring to it.

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[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

“It’s time for OpenAI to return to the open-source, safety-focused force for good it once was,” Musk said in a statement provided by his lawyer Marc Toberoff to The Wall Street Journal. “We will make sure that happens.”

I'll believe that when I see it.

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[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (5 children)

OK, what's the fediverse alternative for ChatGPT?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Running the models locally.

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[–] lovelywon@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He offered to buy it with someone else's money and take the credit

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is he going to buy a “founder” clause in the contract?

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

I really hope he tanks Open AI.

[–] ansiz@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This kind of thing is why it's short-sighted even for the other tech guys to cozy up to Trump. There's no room for anyone other than Musk and he is just going to use his leverage with Trump to screw over the other billionaires as well.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would be funny to watch this go through and see how quickly he changes his mind on Open AI’s business model.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would be funny to watch this go through and see how quickly he changes his mind on Open AI’s business model.

He'd be allowed to back out on this one unlike Twitter. He'd use his power with trump to prevent the SEC from forcing the sale to go through like the SEC did with Twitter.

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