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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 205 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You know, for a free speech supporter, he sure seems to hate it when people speak freely.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 92 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He wants to speak freely, but he doesn't want to afford anyone else the same right.

It's not an uncommon stance, but it's a hypocritical one.

[–] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And when you say freely you mean hate.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago

In his case.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 10 months ago

Not really true. His supporters are allowed to speak freely as well.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 21 points 10 months ago

"Free speech absolutist"*

[–] Grassgrowz@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

hes quite the selective speech supporter

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

He absolutely wants to support the speech he agrees with. The rest can get fucked.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 104 points 10 months ago

Only the cool kids know where to get FOSS.

somepusher

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They also block any content, even private messages that contain Bluesky for example.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Time to create redsky, yellowsky, and pinksky URL forwarders

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[–] Probius@sopuli.xyz 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think we need laws against platforms censoring discussion of their rivals, particularly with shadow bans and shadow delistings.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You wish. It's not gonna happen with these douchebags in power.

[–] Probius@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

That's the sad truth.

[–] misk@sopuli.xyz 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was waiting for such endorsement, maybe my friends will switch now.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago

Agree this reinforce that signal is good for now.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 41 points 10 months ago

Very free speech absolutist of him.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 10 months ago
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Been using Signal for years. Love it.

Makes sense than an anti-free speech dipshit like Elon Musk would oppose it.

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[–] o_arguido@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (7 children)

It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅

Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.

Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

"You can check out any time you like... But you can never leeeave."

[–] Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Leaving is never really an option. But running the two apps side by side still works.

[–] o_arguido@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It varies, I guess. Some people might not be able to leave due to their job for example.

I left, it's an option for me. And I'm not coming back, I don't want to admit defeat.

I'm in an island now, it's annoying how these companies penetrated our lives.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 23 points 10 months ago

Here are some workarounds:

  1. Don't use Xitter
  2. Use your phone number
  3. Use a URL shortener

He's not doing anything except getting more bad press for himself.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 10 months ago

Free speech but no Signal? Red flag.

[–] monotremata@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Supposedly they're unblocked again, but there's been no explanation from Xitter about the issue. Definitely seems suspicious that this happened while DOGE is having trouble with whistleblowers using Signal, though.

https://gizmodo.com/x-briefly-blocked-then-unblocked-signal-links-as-federal-workers-seek-security-2000564966

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I've blocked Twitter on my Adguard Home DNS already last year, so no "X" shit in my house/our mobile devices anywhere.

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[–] dsilverz@friendica.world 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

@cyrano The "problem" (actually, the feature) with those censorship algorithms is that they rely a lot on the "exact contents" of the message ("Scunthorpe Problem"), so X is probably programmed to detect the Signal's domain and block due to the presence of such link (similar to how Facebook was/is blocking links to the largest PixelFed instances, and then they also decided to block links to DistroWatch and official websites from various Linux distros), so it's not programmed (yet) to censor just the "hexadecimal/base64/whatever" portion of the link alone. And there's where Tox could shine: a handle is literally a hexadecimal sequence, without Tox's domains, without URI Schemas, just a bunch of digits and letters from A to F.

I don't know why Tox isn't mentioned as a "instant messaging platform for whistleblowers": it got Onion (Tor) tunneling possibility (as well as tunneling it through I2P outproxies because it actually accepts any kind of SOCKS5 proxy), it's registration-less (even Matrix needs registration) so it's effectively anonymous IMO.

SimpleX seems to be that, too, although I didn't have the opportunity to use it more than I used Tox. But from the little I've used it, it's similar to Signal in the sense that it's a link (and a large link) and not simply a hash/hex sequence.

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago

Interesting, I did not know about that app https://tox.chat/index.html

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Sounds like that censorship conservatives are all up in a row about... Oh not anymore fancy that

[–] takeiteasypolicy@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

[–] TWB0109@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

A lot of people unfortunately. Specially people outside the US, I think mastodon is ready for people to switch, but nobody does, the most they do is switch to bluesky

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[–] PassingThrough@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So what’s the opinion here between Signal and SimpleX?

Signal gets all the attention, and seems more approachable but ties to a phone number which can be a big deal.

SimpleX ties to nothing but I could absolutely see people I know fucking it up and wondering where their “account” went.

So, Signal as an common man’s adoptable compromise and SimpleX to nerd out with full “opsec” and disposability? That about right?

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

SimpleX sounds like herpes.

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm trying to use simplex, mainly for the instance's chat. 2 things to say:

  • notifications work perfectly even without play store
  • every device has a separate account - I can't reuse the same one. Not the end of the world, but it's really annoying
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[–] Coolkat@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago

New certified Signal classic

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Twitter should have been regulated as a common carrier and one rich asshole shouldn’t have been allowed to buy it, regardless of their politics

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The best endorsement you could get for moving to Signal.

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