Isn't the JonTron guy just an open nazi now?
this post was submitted on 11 Sep 2023
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(yes i know hes dad is from Iran, its still funny)
Yes and it will never stop blowing my mind that people took a video of him saying "I didn't convey myself very well" as if it was an actual apology.
Personally I thought it was very clear what he was conveying when he insisted that "wealthy black people are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes" than wealthy white people.
Just a small correction - he said that wealthy black people are statistically more likely to commit violent crimes than poor white people
Yeah 
Wait whaat?
Yep it's pretty fucking bad
At least Arin has openly apologized for the things he said, talked about how he didn't understand why what he was saying was actually wrong. Unlike literal ethno-nationalist JonTron.
Watching old Zero Punctuations can be a wildly jarring experience
I will never forget that GGs studio fucking outed a gay furry to their conservative family because they dared to point out problematic stuff in Dream Daddy.
Whats the problematic parts of dream daddy, the game was too boring for me to finish
it sometimes treats relationships between gay men as a funny haha joke rather than anything resembling a typical relationship
honestly I don't know what was pointed out specifically, but a gay member of the staff (the only gay staff member) apparently brought up some complaints regarding the writing/representation and he was resoundingly ignored, and then outed to the family. No one quite knows what happened, but the gay developer guy attempted suicide, so it seems like it was something serious
also it's not clear how much the game grumps themselves were involved or if it was mainly the studio staff. Who knows. There's not a lot of open information about it
Yeah the whole incident is just awful and made me thoroughly hate lets playing as a business model.
and made me thoroughly hate lets playing as a business model
It continued mutating and getting more malignant and now we have rich Twitch streamers siccing their fandoms on each other in narcissistic turf wars. 
That's horrible.
lmao hearing jontron saying the n-word just sounds so natural. its like "yeah this exactly lines up with expectations"
fucking g*mers. the worst.
Come on guys, its not fair to hold people responsible for saying the N word 10 years ago. Those were different times
Holy shit dude, what the hell
That's worse than I expected as someone who casually watched a decade ago.
Oh that takes me back and their shit did not age well. 
I gotta admit, I sometimes still go back and watch early Game Grumps just because 2012 and 2013 were a happier years for me. I was finally on my own back then, I had a cat who loved me, and I had a moderate amount of financial independence.
I had friends too, and we all enjoyed the same type of internet content, so I probably mix together that type of nostalgia. All blended together. We'd watch Game Grumps and then we'd also play terrible games on a couch together.
I know nothing like that has necessarily changed, I can still find people to play video games with, but so much of my brain has changed. Even knowing how Game Grumps turned out doesn't dissuade me from enjoying the older stuff somehow. I never liked Dan. I got sex creep vibes from him Day 1 and I wasn't wrong.
Fair enough 👍
I'm very much in the same boat, I absolutely agree there are problems with the attitudes. But that Grumps era just holds a special comfort for me.
I'd watch anything similar if I could find it. Two goofballs goofing around with SNES games on a couch is what I like. Reminds me of when I had friends. Everything is twitch streams and vtubers now and it just doesn't hit the same.