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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 44 points 10 months ago (3 children)

At this point, with specific regard to populations that are willfully ignorant and resistant to obvious and basic public health precautions: I’m at the point where my reaction is simply “good luck with that”.

I know there are considerations for immune compromised people - I’m on an immune-suppressing med myself. But holy fuck, if these idiots still haven’t found the plot after 5 years and a whole fucking pandemic, they’re not going to.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We've nerfed natural selection a bit too hard if you ask me.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think this a lot.

But, quite ironically, I think it'll be what kills us all so it never really went away.

Natural selection leveled up 😬

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My wife is allergic to the measles vaccination and relies on herd immunity. The fact that there are parents who legitimately think that the vaccination is somehow worse than the disease itself makes me irrationally angry.

[–] Intergalactic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[–] HexPat@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

JFC I grew up in the dumbest state.

[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I didn't grow up in Texas but I live here now, and my first thought reading the headline was: "JFC this place is so fucking stupid."

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Shhhh, don't interrupt the enemy when they want to make a mistake

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sick children aren't the enemy

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about the kids, I'm talking about the parents, the same type of people who want me to be locked up in a camp because i need antidepressants to function. The same people who want to ban vaccines, execute the gays, deport my lawyer sister in law (while cheering the release of felons that stormed the capital).

The only way these people can possibly empathize with actual human beings, is to hurt.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Not at the expense of letting kids die.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Way more kids will die if these people ban all vaccines. See the measles outbreak this post is about.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

What would you have us do? Take the kids away?

Do you know what the foster system is like in Texas?

Those kids are better off with measles. I wish I was kidding.

[–] HM05_Me@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These parties are geared at gathering children together to spread measles amongst the children. The parents arranging it are likely vaccinated, so the harm is focused on the kids. You’re suggesting that these kids should get sick and possibly die to spite your enemies.

Not to mention that vaccines are only 97% effective, so spread to vaccinated people is likely. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/mmr/public/index.html

Add to that the fact that measles can also essentially reset the immune system making people lose the effectiveness of vaccines for other diseases. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20211112-the-people-with-immune-amnesia

But, that’s all ok just to spite your enemies? Innocent children should be subjected to measles and the general public should be endangered?

[–] d00phy@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

... And you just know that as soon as it spreads to a single vaccinated person, that will be "proof" that vaccines don't work!

1000 unvaccinated could die, but as soon as 1 vaccinated person spends a week in a hospital with it before going home w/ minimal issues, they have their "irrefutable proof!"

[–] darkmarx@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, let's do nothing and let the children of people we don't like die. And in the meantime, let's put other particularly vulnerable - like the immunocompromised - at risk. But we'll sure show a handful of people how right we were the whole time.

You might want to rethink your moral compass.

Sometimes, the best you can do is explain a bad decision when you see it. The people who really want to do it will ignore you. The hope is to get the people on the fence to not do it. You won't get them all, but if it saves even one child, it's worth it.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This goes way beyond "people i don't like". These people are stupid, evil or both. People who want me executed because I like Dick. People who want to ban vaccines, so other people's kids will suffer. People who want me in a work camp because I need antidepressants to function. People who are raising those kids to believe the same stupid, evil shit that they've bought into, belief that others should suffer, because reasons.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago

Now imagine people exactly like you, except they’re also immunocompromised or kids of these shitheads with no legal right to make their own healthcare decisions, seeing you say ‘just die to punish people we both hate lol’

Exercise your empathy or you become a conservative. If nothing else exercise basic self preservation: most vaccines need 90%+ population uptake to work.

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There's a part of me that hopes willfully ignorant parents do go to measles parties specifically because the lesson they chose to ignore will instead be learned the hard way.

On a more positive note, Wells reported that the outbreak has seemed to sway some vaccine-hesitant parents to get their children vaccinated. Just yesterday in Lubbock, over 50 children came into the city's clinic for measles vaccines. Eleven of those children had vaccine exemptions, meaning their parents had previously gone through the state process to exempt their child from having to receive routine childhood vaccines to attend school. “Which is a really good sign; that means our message is getting out there,” Wells said.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago

Good news. Shame some people need to touch the hot stove to learn.