I'm not convinced there will be an election in 2028...
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There won't at the current trajectory. There won't even be midterms.
I remember Republicans checking out on elections back in 2018 because they bought hard into the Trump "elections are rigged" propaganda. The GOP lost seven Senate seats that year as conservative turnout plunged.
I wonder if Democrats will make the same mistake in 2026.
No, I don't think Democrats are ready to make new mistakes yet. They still won't abandon their devotion to the old mistakes.
There will, but it won't be a fair one. They have "elections" in Russia, too.
There will absolutely be an election.
It will be a farce, a Russian election where there's only one possibility to win.
If we're not pitchforks in the street before then, I don't hold much hope
Or maybe a Hungary-style election where the entire media landscape shills for the ruling class and people on social media are bombarded with misinformation and one-sided reporting.
sounds a lot like the last 12 years TBF
The Harris campaign had to cover the governor’s tracks when he tripped up during a California fundraiser by stating that the constitutionally-mandated system used to select the president, otherwise known as the electoral college, “needs to go”.
How the hell is that a gaffe? It's both the truth and exactly what people want to hear. Any lib who thinks like that needs to kindly keep their mouths shut for the next four years. This country needs radical change, the only choice you get is which one you want.
Here, let me grab a sharpie and fix that.
The Harris campaign made a cowardly attempt to walk back the governor's statements when he said during a California fundraiser that the broken election systems used for gerrymandering and enabling the double elections of Donald Trump, "needs to go".
Just guessing, but it might be a gaffe because it could be skewed to sound like he doesn't believe in democracy. Of course, this makes no sense because Trump has quite literally said that we might not need another election in four years.
A more careful statement might have been, "the electoral college needs to be replaced with a system where every citizen's vote has the same magnitude." If that's not the mathematical ideal of democracy, I don't know what is.
Edit: For you pedantic mathematicians, I'll add that everyone's vote should have the same magnitude, and that magnitude should be greater than zero.
Him calling the GOP weird was not a gaffe but the campaign made him walk away from that language because it might offend potential turncoats. The fact he is internalizing the criticism worries me.
My only "problem" with the weird-comments were that they were overused. While it is certainly true, and Waltz had every reason to call it out, supporters often kept repeating it in the context of "look how triggered Republicans are by this". After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning "let's go brandon" into every situation.
After a while it gave me the same vibe as people shoehorning “let’s go brandon” into every situation.
Except that....worked?
One of the takeaways from the 2024 election is that if you have something that works, repetition is key for the idiot American electorate.
Yeah, interesting how the Harris campaign had all the momentum after the Waltz nomination, then pivoted back to neoliberal wonkiness and then crashed and burned again.
Tim Walz unleashed would have won this.
He was hamstrug by Harris. He’s likely the dem’s best choice for 2028.
So of course they’ll run Newsome or Shapiro or Hillary Clinton again because they’re a bunch of idiots.
And Harris was hamstrung by Biden.
She could have been better.
She is a cop. She dropped out in 15th place in the 2020 primary before she was embarrassed in her home state of California. They should have never ran her and that's why they didn't do a primary.
Fuckin should have been the nominee in the first place - him or Sanders.
Thinking there is going to be a real election in 2028 is the most optimistic thing I've heard in a while.
It's cute that he thinks there will be an election in 2028, or ever again, for that matter.
Personally, I'm hoping Zelensky will run for US president after strong Dien in Ukraine. You might be thinking that someone from another country can't be president. Well.... looks at current situation in White House At least this one would be elected.
Walz was great in 2024. He had enthusiasm and actually answered the interviewers' questions. I would have preferred the symbolic victory of a black woman president, but I like Walz better as an individual person. I think he could have won if he'd been the presidential candidate. Well, Harris won too, but I mean he could have won even with the voter suppression stealing all those democratic votes.
President Walz and Vice President Cortez is the future we need. But probably not the future we'll get.
It's cute that they think there's gonna be another election.
He's got some things going for him. Male. Presumably heterosexual. Caucasian. Old (but perhaps not quite old enough). I say go for it.
We could do (and have done) a lot worse. My only concern is whether or not he has the backbone to refuse to be steered to the right, the way Kamala was after the convention. His Midwestern politeness definitely didn't serve him well in the debate.
"Run for president in 2028" XD That ship has sailed. I don't think they will have any more elections.
I'd vote for him but he'd need to ignore the consultants next time if he wants any hope of winning.
I'm feeling pretty certain the dems will run Buttigieg. Feels like they've been prepping him for a while.
I'm worried that despite having very good views himself that he is going to be tainted by the past. Not without reason too, because the consultants made him stand down with the "weird" insult and progressive messaging. Like most of these people, if it's not their authentic campaign, then whose is it? He's demonstrated, like most people who reach a moment in their career to seriously consider this, that he's too malleable for populist politics. It's possible that he completely sheds that team and runs his own, but who here really thinks that's going to happen? I'd believe it if we had AOC for VP. The pressure to succumb to inferior messaging is higher than it'll ever be during a presidential campaign, I don't really trust anyone to stay firm except AOC, Talib, and Bernie because they have demonstrated resistance in this sort of high pressure consultant environment.