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Mass firings at the IRS under the Trump administration threaten ongoing audits of wealthy individuals and corporations, potentially leading to millions in lost tax revenue.

The cuts primarily impacted employees in the Large Business & International Division, many of whom had extensive tax expertise.

With fewer agents and specialists, complex cases may be prematurely closed, undermining enforcement against high-end tax evasion.

Critics warn this weakens IRS oversight and emboldens tax avoidance among the ultrawealthy.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 163 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Gee, that almost sounds like it was intentional.

[–] jonne 66 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not even subtle about it any more.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 39 points 7 months ago

They weren't subtle to begin with.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

The only thing that’s incorrect about this article is that they talk about millions in lost revenue, when the effect will certainly be in the billion if not trillion dollar range.

[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 89 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

They should have cut all IRS investigations except the wealthy.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 83 points 7 months ago

For every dollar spent on IRS audits for middle America, they get about a dollar back in recovered revenue. For every dollar spent on auditing wealthy Americans, they get about twelve dollars back in recovered revenue. I don't think these cuts are intended to help balance the budget.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why would they do exactly the opposite of their goal?

[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I may be behind, have they installed a Republican shill in directorship in the IRS as well as defunding them? If not, then they should still have agency in fund allocation

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The rest of us are mostly automated. Checking your return against a W2 and a couple of bank 1099s is easy.

Chasing down tax dodging through a web of pass through entities is not.

[–] CritFail@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Fair point, but potential returns are massive, and if they were targeting likely evaders , they could compound the money spent on manual checks (a list of high ranking Republican members might be a good place to start)

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 59 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That kind of seems like the opposite of efficiency

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 58 points 7 months ago

Almost like efficiency was never the point.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 18 points 7 months ago

Makes it more efficient for the wealthy when finding ways to avoid paying tax.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 50 points 7 months ago

Friendly reminder that Joe Biden increased resources to the IRS and they recouped billions from wealthy tax cheats.

But he was too old, so we went with an old rapist felon traitor instead.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

Retail Store CEO:

We will save money by firing all the cashiers!

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

I would say "why don't they just focus on rich people and not audit the other 90% of Americans." But we already know the answer to that one no matter who's in charge.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The Helmsley Doctrine (“only the little people pay taxes”) is now law

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I refiled my W4s to pay little to no taxes. I realize they're going to come after it later, but I just plan to play dumb and delay and deny for as long as I can (without facing jail time).

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Maybe tell them you were using it to pay the new import taxes Trump implemented and that you thought it was the same thing.

[–] PearOfDees69@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (3 children)

we the poor are not a fucking bank for these lazy bastards that just keep taking all our shit for their own personal financial gain.. And they'll keep taking and taking if we keep letting them, and we've been over the limit for some time already It's past due to push them off of us

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 27 points 7 months ago

And yet, Republicans have been steadily making gains with the working class. With this past election they are now the dominant party for working class voters. It comes down to two things. American voters are deeply ignorant and the Democratic party is pathetically weak and out of touch.

[–] aaron 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

Less of a bank, and more like livestock. And you've seen how they treat other forms of livestock.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Geez gosh golly!

I can't believe stuff like this happening under a Trump presidency ! Is it actually possible Trump wants good things to happen to the wealthy and nobody else!

Not possible! I refuse to believe it!

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 15 points 7 months ago

Clearly, it was Hunter Biden's intern's emails about a tan suit.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fucken sick of this blatant manipulation by the wealthy. The IRS is our fucken money maker.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 months ago

Let's rename it to "Accounts Receivable" and really run this country like a business.

[–] Master@lemm.ee 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Turns out they only have enough to audit the poor and middle class.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Actually, they have so few staff on hand that it isn't economic to audit the poor. You can expect them to never audit you unlesd they think they can make 20-30k out of it.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (5 children)

It doesn't make sense to me because there are fewer ultra wealthy people in America than there are poor people.
so with staff getting cut in half, you'd think it would be better to focus on the smaller group.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 7 months ago

The rich have more assets and income sources and have staff who do a bunch of financial chicanery to try to hide their tax evasion. Auditing the rich requires significantly more work than the poor.

These decisions are not about doing what makes sense. The IRS is a revenue generator. Spending money on the IRS brings in significantly more money in unpaid taxes than it costs.

The goal is not to do what's best for the government's budget. Its really about ensuring that their criminal friends can continue to get away with it.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Smaller group with more to pay. It's a no-brainer if you're acting in good faith and not a complete moron. So obviously not what the current administration is going to do.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

I can only assume it's because rich people's audits are highly complex

[–] capital_sniff@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is just the continued pushing of the tax burden onto the middle class. Which really got started good under Reagan. I think this is just the result of the uneducated GOP supporters winning this election. Now it is just a constant flood of them having no idea how government functions while ruining stuff for the rest of society,

[–] Fluke@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

But they're winning! And fucking over "the libs" at the same time!

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[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Auditing the less wealthy is already automated.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sue Trump and Elon for the illegal firing now before it is too late.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That'll get you literally nowhere. Someone with deep pockets would be the only option to sue em, even then, they'll just counter sue for defamation and drown you in legal fees

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 months ago
[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't they retaliate by specifically prioritizing the wealthy?

If they're crunched on time wouldn't they focus on the highest value accounts?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

TLDR: They are prioritizing the wealthy. They simply can't afford to audit them without staff and funds to do so. They only audit if doing so is profitable for the government.


They did. They have been targeting the wealthy for years. It has been all over the news.

Problem is, court cases are expensive, running audits are more expensive based on the scale of the assets involved.

The IRS always makes additional money back based on every dollar of funding given to them but Republicans always defund the IRS. Here is an article about it from the end of the last Trump Admin LINK HERE

[–] griff@lemmings.world 14 points 7 months ago

Thank goodness! The eternally suffering oligarchs will finally get a break from all the riff raff harassment

[–] Belkor@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

So much corruption under this convicted felon president.

[–] TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Surprised Pikachu Face...

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Exactly the point.

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