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[–] esc27@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Irony is the opposite of wrinkly

[–] KingJalopy@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

I thought it was the opposite of anemia

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Irony is e.g. writing a song about irony, and then filling it with events that aren't ironic.

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

IT'S LIKE RAAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAaaaAaaiiiin

[–] yunxiaoli@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] weastie@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I feel like you can easily find counterexamples that aren't ironic, so this argument doesn't make sense.

"It’s like rain on your wedding day" - This is not irony. Weddings are planned months, sometimes years in advance. There wouldn't be an expectation that it couldn't rain on your wedding day, that's an understood possibility.

Because it's an understood possibility that it can rain on your wedding day, it's not ironic if it does happen, it's just unfortunate.

An example that would be ironic, is if you are planning a hiking trip and you specifically go on Saturday because the weather forecasted it to be sunny, but it ended up raining anyway. That's ironic because expectation does not meet reality.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I think the second example also falls under "unfortunate", I would call it ironic if you had planned the trip for Sunday, but moved it to Saturday because of the weather forecast, then it ended up being rainy on Saturday and sunny on Sunday. Although specifically where I'm from I would still put that chain of events within the range of "likely to happen" (unpredictable weather is a bitch).

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

FTA

For everyone I know, rain on one’s wedding day would indeed be cruelly, humorously, and strangely at odds with expectations.

Yeah I think you're right. I strongly disagree with the authors use of "expectations" here.

You don't want it to rain during a wedding, But nobody has any expectations that it won't. Catering companies and venues have tents for this purpose because it is expected to happen occasionally.

[–] TwistyLex@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"The use of words expressing something other than their literal intention. Now that is irony!" - Bender Bending Rodriguez

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 10 months ago

I love that bit because the things Bender keeps calling out as not being ironic, are only not ironic from his perspective. To the audience, every single example is one of dramatic irony.

[–] spankinspinach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

This was gonna be my exact comment, I'm thrilled someone beat me too it

[–] Speiser0@feddit.org 13 points 10 months ago

I like how they used actual irony here.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

We've misused ironic for so damn long we should probably just add it as a definition.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

clear communication is rife with failure. But it is the only true and consistent way.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Ha, they misspelled iconic.