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The advanced S-400 ‘Triumf’ air-defence system was destroyed in a joint operation by Kyiv’s security service and navy, Ukrainian intelligence sources said The attack off the coast of Yevpatoriya was orchestrated through the aerial drones and Neptune domestic missiles, Ukrainian official Anton Gerashchenko said

Ukraine used drones and missiles to take down an advanced Russian air-defence system worth US$1.2 billion early on Thursday, according to multiple reports.

The advanced S-400 “Triumf” air-defence system was destroyed in a joint operation by Kyiv’s security service (SBU) and navy, the BBC and Reuters reported, citing Ukrainian intelligence sources.

The attack off the coast of Yevpatoriya was orchestrated through the use of aerial drones and Neptune domestic missiles, per Anton Gerashchenko, a Ukrainian official writing on Telegram.

Yevpatoriya is a coastal city in the west of occupied Crimea, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

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[–] Blaubarschmann@feddit.de 111 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Why does every news article nowadays repeat itself at least 2 times? There are almost the exact same sentences twice. You don't even have to read past the abstract because there is no other information at all in the actual text. And besides, you avoid having to scroll past 7 gigantic ads

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[–] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m so happy. I thought it was just me noticing this. I really dislike when the headline is the headline, summary and first paragraph. By the time I get to the substance of the article I’ve read the first paragraph three times.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

I think it's because the first paragraph is usually preview content for news aggregators and search engines, so it's used as an appetizer.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Probably stems at least in part from the essay format a lot of us were taught in school.

Intro: tell em what you're gonna tell em

Body: tell em

Conclusion: tell em what you told em

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You probably got taught wrong. At least that’s not what I learnt (early 90s);

Intro: what’s the problem? Background stuff.

Body: here’s a solution and what else we looked at

Conclusion: tie back solution to problem and what further stuff we could talk about.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Less right vs wrong than just the way it was done. It's the product of word/page requirements that encourages us to fluff the everliving fuck out of our papers.

[–] LordCirais@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also remember being taught this way. It's why you have people that say "in this essay I am going to tell you", which is, of course, bad.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it's not exactly a highlight of academia.

I took a technical writing course in college, and it delivered the best lesson of any English course I've been in:

Assigned your standard 3 page essay with little instruction. Do it, hand it in. Get a grade and the paper back. Next assignment: write that same essay, but this time in 1 page. And again, but this time in a single paragraph, using bullet points to summarize the main ideas.

"...and that's how you write a work email. Remove ALL the fluff. If it takes longer than 30 seconds to read, it's probably not going to be read."

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mookulator@mander.xyz 8 points 2 years ago

Because they don’t care about quality in depth content. They’re just in it for the clicks. Probably had an algorithm fill in the remaining paragraphs

[–] Lantech@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you ever have to write a paper in school with a minimum page or word count?

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[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Ah, I think you just answered your own question. Articles gave a lot less substance in the age of information. "News" outlets still need ad revenue even if they don't employ journalists any more.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You answered your own question

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[–] Wahots@pawb.social 76 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just as a heads up, SCMP is a bit of an iffy source, being owned by alibaba and run as a near state owned paper. At one point, it was also owned by Murdoch as well.

Since the change of ownership in 2016, concerns have been raised about the paper's editorial independence and self-censorship. Critics including The New York Times, Der Spiegel, and The Atlantic have alleged that the paper is on a mission to promote China's soft power abroad.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] etuomaala@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The South China Morning Post article is a carbon copy of the BI article. That is typical of disinformation outlets. 4/5 of the news is copy pastad from reliable sources, and the other 1/5 is total bullshit. Russia Today operated like that for years, and probably still does.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 6 points 2 years ago

It's hardly like China is favouring Ukraine, so I don't see how the article being from the SCMP matters

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Whoooaaa... The South China Morning Post is reporting this in this kind of tone? Now that is a shifting of the tides, they didn't have to talk up how "prized" it was. No wonder Putin is cozying up to Kim.

Never thought I'd see the day where Russia comes crawling to North Korea, but if Xi's support is starting to wilt this much, they're going to need anyone they can get.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They even threw this in for shits and giggles:

This would not be the first time Russia accidentally revealed its location by attempting to shoot down Ukrainian targets.

Last week, Ukraine said it was able to attack Russian soldiers after they attempted to shoot down a Ukrainian flag that was attached to helium balloons and flew into occupied territory.

[–] Reverendender@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s like Looney Tunes, but with blood

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I want to upvote you twice: once for the apt comparison, and again for spelling "Tunes" right.

[–] Bobzemoer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I never thought I would see the day when Russia and China, previously fighting Nazi Germany and Japan would become so like the countries themselves back then, but here we are.

Russia is the modern day Nazi Germany and China is the modern day WW2 Japan. Japan and Germany? Well they're the good guys now, literally swapped places.

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[–] uis@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's how it went:

  1. Few waves of drones were sent
  2. AD spent their ammo on cheap drones
  3. Missile strike before AD was reloaded
[–] aport@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago

Literally baited their turret

[–] bookmeat@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago

Article is misleading. These systems are never a single unit. There's parts spread around where radar is separate from launchers, and other components etc. It's not clear in the article what exactly was destroyed.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They should have had two so that they could protect each other.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Also s300 and s400 did protect each other. Didn't help.

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