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Donald Trump warned the UK must accept chlorinated US chicken imports if it wants relief from new 10% tariffs on British exports.

The U.K. has long reaffirmed its commitment to maintaining high food standards, with polling showing 80% of Britons oppose a ch imports.

Critics argue chlorinated chicken stems from poorer production hygiene, with studies showing high bacteria rates in US chicken.

Farming advocates warn a US trade deal with lower standards would be "devastating for British farming."

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[–] TheInfinityMachine@programming.dev 142 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Studies have shown that washing food in chlorine doesn't actually work as US authorities think. It can put the bacteria into a survival state called VBNC, viable but non-culturable. This means labs cannot culture the bacteria to test for its presence, but it is present and can still cause illness. It hides the problem, allowing for lower safety practices in favor of productivity and profit. Here is one such study: https://journals.asm.org/doi/full/10.1128/mbio.00540-18

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It hides the problem

Seems to be working as intended

[–] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It hides the problem or else it gets the hose again

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[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago

Sounds like the american way. Hide the problem in the name of profits rather than finding a real solution.

Note: am american, and hate this mindset

[–] frazw@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

All you need to do to not need the chlorine wash is to not treat the animals so badly that they shit all over each other due to lack of space. Improve their welfare improve the product, but no. Dollars come first.

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[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 51 points 2 months ago

trumpy: "you get the chemical chicken or we tax our people. what's your choice?"

art.of.the.deal

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How is it even legal for the US to wash chicken with Chlorine ? Sounds like so ridiculous.

[–] El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Companies pay loads of money to politicians to have them change the health and safety laws so they can make even more money. It's a time-honored American tradition.

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

This one time, some dude bought his own president for just over $250 million

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In the same country they bleach little kids assholes to cure autism and other things. So it's pretty fitting i would say

[–] FunnyUsername@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Oh. You have a sad read ahead of you....

[–] Beldarofremulak@discuss.online 3 points 2 months ago

"Business Innovation"

[–] henfredemars 30 points 2 months ago

I'm an American and I don't want to buy our chicken either.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 28 points 2 months ago

The obnoxious thing is that most US chicken isn't even chlorine washed. We could easily just try to make a deal on air chilled chicken, which is actually a high quality American product, but that's not what Trump is interested in. He doesn't actually care about trade or American farmers - he just wants to make people shovel shit, because to him, a "deal" is all about forced compliance rather than mutual respect and compromise.

[–] Pondis@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather go out of my way to avoid buying anything from the US, which is exactly what I have started doing.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 2 months ago

Especially food related stuff. Just look at the people who consume it.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 17 points 2 months ago

Yuck. Even if I ignored economy, Trump and everything political, US food is pure shit compared to European food.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

who the FUCK would buy chicken from the US? if you want chicken you buy it from japan where you can eat it raw if you wanted to.

[–] StopTouchingYourPhone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Probably trying to make a buck off blighted fetid fowl.

[T]he U.S. discards nearly 60 million tons—or 120 billion pounds—of food annually, amounting to about 40% of the national food supply. This equates to 325 pounds of waste per person, or the equivalent of each American throwing away 975 average-sized apples every year. Alarmingly, food waste is the largest component of municipal solid waste in landfills, making up 22% of the total. The environmental cost is staggering, with food waste generating methane emissions that significantly contribute to climate change. - forbes link from jan '25

In case anyone was wondering, signs of avian flu at the market: bloody legs; slimy, filmy meat.

[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After reading the article, I'm left wondering how US food waste breaks down between originating from individual households vs grocery retailers, commercial retail food/restaurants and ag suppliers.

It's been a while, but I remember reading about how there's little incentive (maybe it's even prohibited?) for retailers to send reject and expiring food to food banks instead of throwing it out. I feel like this should be more of a concern considering the demand to food banks is probably going to increase rapidly while funding and donations will likely decrease with the current economic turmoil.

I suspect we could curb a significant amount of food waste by creating a pathway to divert food waste instead of disposing it outright. Of course, such pathway would need to meet food safety standards while providing a clear regulatory framework to address liability and logistical aspects to make it more profitable to divert vs dispose.

Anyone from outside of the shithole have any input on how this works in your country?

[–] Someone@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm in Canada and recently our food banks (at least in my area) have been getting huge donations of all the unsold American produce.

[–] RidgeDweller@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

That's awesome! Glad to hear that silver lining.

[–] Zacpod@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

He's doing the same shit with Canada and milk. American "milk" doesn't even qualify as milk in Canada - has too many other ingredients like BGH and steroids and shit. But he wants us to buy his shitty undrinkable swill instead of buying our own hign quality dairy. No thanks!

[–] Sdes01@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Trump trying to expand the US sewer to the world.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 6 points 2 months ago

Watch out for the UK government removing the requirement for Country Of Origin labelling on food. If even a whiff of it stinks up your nostrils then chlorinated US chicken will surely follow.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

EDIT: To clarify, I'm supporting the idea that the UK ignore Trump's ultimatum. Like "Oh no, you're saying we have to listen to your demands or be tarriffed? Anyways..."

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The Tyson lobby sends their regards.

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Look guys, we know y'all eat beans on toast and spotted dick, be a good sport and take some of this chemically tainted chicken off our hands

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

Please don't I need my quorn roarsomes and it'd just make people pivot to eating all my quorn roarsomes

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Europe, tariffs and chicken, this brings some deja vu

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