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The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), "who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and 'fight harder'," rather than leaders who are willing to "compromise" with President Donald Trump.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 113 points 2 months ago (2 children)

72%? That's CLEAR CUT that we MUST move MORE RIGHT!

-The DNC Literally!

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Yeah I’m expecting the dnc to double down with Kamala and maybe Pete as a running mate.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

I'd bet real money they'll try to run Shapiro. They dont see a terrible republican competitor as a must-win competition, they see it as a chance to run the worst dem they can possibly get away with.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Please god let this be different than 2016

[–] Hellahunter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I’m in the same boat as you, hoping, but if 2016 and this past November have taught me anything, it is that most Americans have the memory of goldfish as soon as election times come around.

Gonna keep my fingers crossed though!

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That's my entire expectation.

[–] gregs_gumption@lemm.ee 86 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The actual question that 72% of Democrats support:

Do you support more Democrats like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and “fight harder”, or moderate Democrats who are willing to compromise on Trump issues important to their base?

The question is "do you want to fight Trump more" not "do you support AOC and Bernies progressive agenda".

Link to the actual poll results.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's interesting that they explicitly, rather than implicitly, chain compromise with Trump to the moderates, and fighting Trump to the progressives. Without that, that number might have even been higher. This reads to me like a solid condemnation of the moderates.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

Also of the democratic party by a certain reading since Bernie is an independent and AOC is a Bernie plant hehe 72% would prefer more people outside the current party line.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 80 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Kamala didn't lose by being "Too woke", she lost by saying "Maybe the Right can have a little fascism, ya know, as a treat?"

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[–] vxx@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Centrist approach?

USA has a conservative Party and a Neonazi Party

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Sounds about White.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Two old rich white men arguing over the proper way to do genocide against brown people. Then they both get upset when brown people stop buying their shitty products.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

THEN FUCKING DO IT.

If the party “leaders” aren’t with it, kick them the fuck out.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think that's what's going to happen. AOC is taking on Chuck Schumer:

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe if people show up to vote. The only poll that matters is in the voting booth.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Facts. It's all for naught is people can't get off their butts and vote.

Local voting is important too as is being engaged with local politics.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

In these 18 states you don't even have to get up. My ballots are mailed to me. I drop them off on my daily walk at a blue mailbox.

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Theres no real taking on until they start calling for a new party

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I want to abandon the centrist approach, period. No more reaching across the aisle, no more insider trading, no more letting capitalists dictate how society should be. America has given capitalism a nearly free hand to determine the nation's destiny, and it has lead to death camps, fascism, and stolen the prosperity that workers had earned with their sweat.

It is time to try a completely different approach to economics and an overhauled Constitution.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to hate on it, but it's like we don't respect the Constitution as it is anyways. And the origins of this country was rich landowners. So technically we're all just kind of like livestock. I guess simply what I'm saying is we have to actually become a real country. And that will require kinetic input.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 13 points 2 months ago

It should have been a living document. This is how you know these idiots are a death cult.

[–] secretvaporeon@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

Earned with their blood*

[–] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 41 points 2 months ago

Abandon centrist approach and take a hard right turn? The Democratic Party hears you loud and clear! But seriously I do see the Sanders people in places of power I previously have not in the party - this is a very good sign in a very bad time

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Won't happen. There's long been a gap between what registered party members want and what those in charge actually do.

We saw the same thing in the UK a few years ago when Jeremy Corbyn got a huge swell of support from the party proper, but all the other Labour MPs collectively rounded on him and conspired to kick him out of the party altogether because he was going to put a stop to their gravy train.

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[–] jabeez@lemmy.today 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

DNC: LOL no, but can you please send us just $20 this one time, before it's too late!

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Please, [wrong name], we need $5 to make Chuck Schumer wag his finger at the republicans for arresting all LGBT people

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And then Cuck Schumer votes to send all LGBTQ+ folx to extermination camps

[–] gabbath@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Strategically! Look, I know it's not great, but we had to do it to avert a government shutdown, because that's what Trump really wanted and we're not gonna play his game!

[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago

Doesn't matter what the people want, the democrat's corporate masters make the decisions.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (12 children)

If we want leftist leadership we have to abandon the Democratic party.

I will be VERY surprised if the Neoliberals who have controlled the DNC for the last 50+ years would willingly give up control.

They proved in 2016 they would rather lose to Trump than allow leftists to change things at the expense of their rich doners.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

If we want leftist leadership we have to abandon the Democratic party.

You mean take over the Democratic party? If we abandon it, what will we use as a party framework? I don't know of another that's already built and running (and I don't mean Libertarians or Greens).

If you can't be associated to the term "Democratic" then that's a different story.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nah. We can and should do a tea party style takeover. The iron is hot, let's strike.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

Damn straight. They had their tea party; we need a Guillotine Party.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

72% of Democrats Want Party to Abandon Centrist Approach to Trump

Party: But who will help us become exponentially richer then?

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[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

And the dnc won’t listen cos rich fucks run it

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Democrats won't abandon their centrist positions as long as the Clintons live. If voters want a party to represent them, they need to get rid of the current ones.

[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Billionaires don't deserve a seat at the table.

We wouldn't let any other group of 3000 people contort our entire society to their will.

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

I want democrats to stop offering an olive branch. Stop trying to work with repugnicant MAGAts. They have shown you who they are deep down. They'll spit on you soon than help you.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Surely you don't expect the Democrats to stop holding hands with nazis, do you?

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Still getting bribery from AIPAC?

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Right: Genocide ALL undesirables without due process.

Left: Genocide nobody without due process.

Centrist: Clearly there is middle ground. So, lets genocide some people without due process.

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[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

AOC and Sanders ARE the centrists. That’s the key to understanding the issue here.

[–] Charlatan@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sanders?... Maybe. AOC... No freaking way.

You want a centrist that Dems should listen to? See Adam Frisch in my state. Almost beat Boebert TWICE in her home county.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Wow ya think

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