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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Here's the thing. You said a "jackdaw is a crow."

Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.

As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.

If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.

So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.

Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.

It's okay to just admit you're wrong, you know?

[–] JackRiddle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this that copypasta from the guy?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Unidan, yeah

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The bird was named for its similarity in colouration to the Eurasian magpie; it was a common practice for early settlers to name plants and animals after European counterparts.[11] However, the Eurasian magpie is a member of the Corvidae, while its Australian counterpart is placed in the family Artamidae (although both are members of a broad corvid lineage).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_magpie

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

TL;DR: bird law is confusing and best left to the experts

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is outravous

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 8 points 1 month ago

We have so many abrasive motherfucking birbs the fact it's not a corvid is a blessing

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But would Becky let him smash? Asking the real questions here!?!

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Idk, does he have any blue?

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

He got blue, he got yellow, he got whatever you want (that he can get) :-P

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

What about bluejays? Corvids you know.

[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Honestly I think of bluejays and the rest of the family as crows, too. They're the blue crows. Crows are true crows, but magpies and bluejays and all them are still crows, to me.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Australian magpies have a much nicer song than any corvid