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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This, please. We need more votes? EU only :|

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stop buying games made by these companies. Petition won't do shit. Take their money away, stop buying them

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I wish that has worked over the last decade. It didn't. We need a governing body to stand up and represent us. That's what they're for.

And yes I know it won't be exactly as written. Read the darn thing

[–] tatann@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's what EU is for (in Europe), but honestly, even as an avid gamer, there are other priorities, even in the IT/digital department (european alternatives, open source, research, ...), so as of now I keep voting with my wallet

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm doing both. Dividing people isn't going help

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's worked for me, these games don't die in my eyes because they don't exist.

[–] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 13 points 1 month ago

Sticking your head in the sand is a comfort, I suppose

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you even know what the difference between a "European Citizens' Initiative" and petition is?

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

As a non euro and hopefully soon to be better trade partner, no I don't. But I'll go look it up.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why would they stop? Cause you asked? Sadly this online crap is what’s making money and game companies are and have always been about money, all of them without exception

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

Do you know what you're talking about or are you just assuming stuff? Tell me, what is a "European Citizens' Initiative"?

[–] k1ck455kc@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hot take: If its a free to play online multiplayer game, its not very upsetting.

Yeah, fans want another skate in the vein of the trilogy and it sucks we wont get that... But if i dont have to buy this game then idc if it will hit a premature death when it stops being supported. Yeah its a waste of development resources and i wish online-only games didnt exist for the sake of preservation, but i wont be upset if i get to play this game and dont have to pay a dime.

Im not entirely sure itll be ftp though, so this take can be completely void.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If its FTP and all mechanics beyond cosmetics can be accessed with grinding (skate-pun... nice) rather than passes and subscriptions then a great many people need to STFU.

Mechwarrior Online is FTP and Online only, has been since 2013 when it was released, still has players, still gets updates and still makes money without p2w shenanigans. Ive got 3600 hours logged, I still play regularly. Sometimes I buy some shit in game because I'm a grownup with disposable income and 3600 hours worth of entertainment is worth a few bucks.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I kinda agree, but generally find F2P games would have been better as a paid game without the premium shop.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It can be done well either way. If its a premium purchased game eventually it will make more sense financially for them to release a sequel, and the player base will move on. With F2P (If its done well) the games longevity is limited solely by wether or not it keeps making money.

If we're looking at it pessimistically the industry seems to be moving towards buying a premium AAA title, being charged appropriately, being coerced into buying a season pass to play online and then still being harassed with microtransactions.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Runescape back in the day did it pretty well, F2P with a single optional subscription. This model is pretty much dead at this point though.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Turning my business mind towards Skate, they can make money through sources other than the customers.

Clothing companies, in game billboards, in game music deals, skateboard companies... you get the game in front of enough people and the players wont be the whales.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So the game is plastered in advertising, that sounds even worse. Seriously I just want to buy a good game. Factorio is a good example of that.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I dont know that for certain. Just saying theres revenue streams that a F2P game can leverage if they can get the player count high enough, Its something Id tollerate from a good enough F2P game especially if its done well, Skate culture has always had certain brands associated with it so it COULD be done organically.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How come I took flack for this same opinion? I'm in the pre alpha and it's coming along nicely. Same feel of skate 3, tight mechanics, I don't see the big deal. It's free. If you don't like it don't play it what's the big deal?

[–] k1ck455kc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

People are upset they arent getting the same type of game the IP is known for. Unfortunately the IP is being used to push a different type of product. I do think people are justified to be upset about that.

As a gamer who wants more to play and wants to pay less, i am ok with this particular IP(which i dont particularly care about) becoming ftp, even if it degrades the overall experience. If this was happening to another IP i enjoy, I might be more upset about this.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'm not buying or spending money in any more games with a killswitch

[–] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It's free to play

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Free online multiplayer game doesn't have an offline mode? How bizarre.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't understand why games don't have two modes: paid, offline single player experience, and F2P online multiplayer experience. The former ensures the game will survive once the servers shut down, and the latter is a gravy train if it works out. Surely that doesn't add much to the development time...

[–] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure the new Call of Duty games work like that.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

How bizarre, how bizarre.

[–] simop_jo@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Fuck online only games

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess I'll play SKATE on RPCS3.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What is good about Skate? Honest question to a true die hard fans.

It is a skill and learning curve game, right?

[–] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Tony hawk games were the only other skating games, but they had button-press controls and goofy physics. Skate came out with much more realistic physics and the thumbstick flicking controls that made tricks feel purposeful. I think people who do skate (or wanted to) got pulled in for the realistic skating lines and tricks. There was also still enough over-the-top jumps and tricks to keep younger kids entertained.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Tons of reasons. My reason is that it felt like the first skate simulator. And the control scheme was freaking brilliant and intuitive. I couldn't adapt to Session... too complicated.

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, with an emphasis on street skating specifically, and it just feels great to play and nail lines of flip tricks and rails.

[–] death 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Another game I simply won't need to buy. Neat. I guess some publishers just don't like selling games or something.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Another game I simply won't need to buy

I mean, that would be the case whether it was online-only or not; it's a free-to-play game

[–] death 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, thanks. That was entirely unclear from this article.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they mention it obliquely at the end, but it really should be more obviously stated. Presumably they assume anyone reading the article is already familiar with the game

They should have an option to pay for a single player, offline experience. I'd buy that if it worked on my Steam Deck.

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

they don't like to sell games, they like to sell in-game "content" now!

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

It's dead, Jim.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

It's bad, yes, but historically even online only games have had long lives.