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In February, US President Donald Trump declared that “The US will take over the Gaza Strip” and “level out” the remaining buildings and transfer the Palestinian population to “other countries.” At the time, both US and international media dismissed Trump’s plan as an “outlandish” scheme with no prospect of realization.

The Israeli government approached Trump’s plan with deadly seriousness. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu praised Trump’s “bold vision” for an ethnically cleansed Gaza. “We’re working on it,” Trump said during a meeting in Washington last month.

On Monday, the Netanyahu government effectively announced the beginning of the final stage of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. The plan includes a full military occupation of the entire Gaza Strip and the mass internment of the population in concentration camps under armed guard, as a prelude to forced marches through the desert or deportation by sea.

These concentration camps will be staffed by private US security contractors, with the Israel Defense Forces overseeing the distribution of starvation rations. According to a report this week by Reuters, the United States and Israel are actively discussing the formation of a “transitional government” headed by a US official to administer Gaza.

Echoing the “final solution,” the Nazi term for the genocide of Europe’s Jews, Netanyahu declared, “It’s time to launch the concluding moves.” The next day, Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich explained the meaning of the Israeli government’s plan:

Within a year, ... Gaza will be entirely destroyed, civilians will be sent to ... the south to a humanitarian zone ... and from there they will start to leave in great numbers to third countries.

The mechanism for the forcible displacement of the Palestinian people will be mass starvation. As National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir made clear, “No electricity, and no other aid should be allowed—neither by the [Israeli military] nor by civil society.”

On March 2, Israel imposed a total blockade on all food, water and electricity entering the Gaza Strip. As a result, the majority of Gaza’s community kitchens have been forced to shut down due to a lack of supplies, and cases of acute malnutrition have surged by more than 80 percent. Harrowing images have circulated of emaciated, starving children—victims of a famine that is entirely man-made.

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 98 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

We are the baddies. We are allowing our governments to do it. We are the German citizens who for whatever reason let Nazi Germany become a murder machine.

Today we are quiet so that we don't get targeted. How long until we have to pledge our support so that we don't get targeted? How long until we have to contribute so we don't get targeted?

[–] filister@lemmy.world 54 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And here you have it how Germany turned like this during WWII. Propaganda, and dehumanization of the adversaries. As you can see this is still possible even now.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"Let"

The majority of voters chose this.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

If only hillary didn't win the primary in 2016, then trump wouldn't have won the election.

Fuck the moderate white.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wasn’t it closer to slightly more than a third?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Among voters, it was more than half. If you didn't vote, you don't count.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you didn’t vote, you voted for this. This is a representative democracy, and voting is the absolute least you can possibly do.

You don’t get out of your civic duty by abstaining – you’re implicitly supporting the winner by failing to do the bare minimum. You’re doing far worse if you uttered one sentence to convince others to abstain with you, which many, many did.

Unless you live in a literal cave, you’re complicit.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Actually, if I recall it was ultimately still slightly less than half (after the massive excess of California votes that don't count came in). He still had the most votes of the candidates, but no candidate garnered more than half.

Which is really just splitting hairs on a technicality, ultimately 77 million people voted this way, and it would have still been a deep problem even if Harris had won the popular and electoral votes.

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[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 94 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

"Don't you dare compare us to the nazis!! That's plain antisemitism! You're a nazi!" I'm sick and fucking tired of this rhetoric. Grow some balls Netanyahu and admit you're a fucking nazi. The world already knows it.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

His dad wrote a book which flirted with suggesting that the Jews who didn’t escape the Holocaust were inferior.

There is some deeply fucked up internal racism in some Jewish communities.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oooooooooffffffff what the fuck

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Bibi himself:

And this attack and other attacks on the Jewish community in 1920, 1921, 1929, were instigated by a call of the Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini, who was later sought for war crimes in the Nuremberg trials because he had a central role in fomenting the final solution. He flew to Berlin. Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews. And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, "If you expel them, they'll all come here." "So what should I do with them?" he asked. He said, “Burn them.”

It’s a fucked up way to insinuate that Hitler wouldn’t have suggested the Holocaust if not for Muslims. Which, no fuck that. I know I could Google “Poland pogram” and find some medieval account of mass graves or something entirely motivated by the fucking blood libel. Poisoning the wells (bubonic plague) or making matzo balls with the blood of gentiles.

It’s like the outrage that any criticism of Israel summons. That it’s antisemitic to say “yeah no this is pretty fucked up.” As if the fucking state of Israel under war criminal Bibi is identified with Judaism itself.

One of the things that shocks me to this day - I played a National Security Defense Game at GenCon as Bibi. I basically did what he has done. I played it as he did. I could not fucking win - everyone was like yah no you are a mega corrupt criminal. I was courting Trump, spreading conspiracy theories. I got booted the fuck out of office.

I retroactively win lol.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 35 points 3 weeks ago

"We can't possibly be Nazis because we disagree with them about who the Untermensch are."

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

If you are expecting fascists to 'come clean' you don't understand fascism

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[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 60 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ok, so does this kick off WW3 or are other nations just going to roll over and allow this to happen?

How the hell is this even a plausible timeline we’re living in?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's always been like this. We just have the Internet now so we can learn about it happening.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No, these are unprecedented times and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying for their own ulterior purposes

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 18 points 3 weeks ago

You think ethnic cleansing is new? They're literally talking about how this is very similar to what the Nazis did.

The times are quite precedented. We are looking unfortunately similar to Germany in the lead up to WWII.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The only thing new is it's the US doing it from across the world. This kind of thing has happened many times in history. It has happened in Africa and Asia, the Americas. There are probably elements that are unprecedented, but the bigger story is not.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The only thing new is it's the US doing it from across the world

Bahahahahahahhaa

Go ask a Vietnamese or a North Korean what they think of that statement, lmao

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[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago

It’s always unprecedented times, history never stops being made

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Zionists deserve all the vigilante justice that's coming to them.

Everyone single one of them should be afraid.

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Sorry, I was under the assumption that the plan was what Bibi planned all along. He planted the idea in the orange moron that it was his plan to give himself plausible deniability.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But hey, at least you stopped Harris and Biden. Imagine how much worse Gaza would be if you didn't do that! \s

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Zionist talking points to distract us from asking why a foreign apartheid state has so much influence on our politics or why our "good" party chose genocide over their own constituents.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I highly doubt the genocide as we are seeing it today would be happening if Harris had won. This plan at the very least wouldn't have been proposed by the American president and received a rubber stamp of approval by the US government. We would have likely ceased aid to Israel by now and mobilized the UN to inflict other penalties.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing points to that. They gave more money and held the exact same stance as Trump currently holds. Both parties receive substantial amounts from Israel, most of Trumps bribes are probably off the books though.

Both parties arent the same, but on the genocide issue they absolutely are. They are calling it Trumps plan to muddy the waters, nothing more.

I think it's kind of silly to assume the party that literally lost the election because genocide was more important to them then getting votes, would be the one doing a 180 right after getting elected.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

They ... held the exact same stance as Trump currently holds

This lie is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.

Yes Democrats support Israel but there is no instance where they called for literal starving and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians by pushing them out of their country.

Their goal was and has always been a two-state solution. Trump's current stance is a one-state solution where the other state becomes a golf course.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I guess we have different definitions of "stance". They basically add their two state solution to fluff up their speechs, end it with "but Israel has a right to defend itself" and then declare another weapons package.

A small part of what they say directly contradicts the rest and their actions. It's just there to keep us from bitching in my opinion.

I think Israel's plan, currently being masqueraded as Trumps, would have happened regardless of the administration in charge, but we will never know because the good guys decided killing children was more important then keeping the white house.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

end it with “but Israel has a right to defend itself”

When they can't say anything supportive of Palestine without tacking that at the end, it really undermines any perception that they might actually try to do something. What's the saying? (paraphrased) Whenever you add "but" to a sentence, you invalidate the point of whatever came before it.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Blinken tried to get support for ethnically cleansing Gaza in November 2023.

Whenever Biden set an ultimatum for Israel to let in aid, he never followed through or only haphazardly, never actually requiring Israel to provide enough aid to not starve people.

Harris reiterated that she will follow the policy of Biden.

The Democrats in power are behind ethnically cleansing and starving the Palestinians.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

yep, our Democratic party once-brothers tend not to like the idea that this genocide unfolded under Bidens active sponsorship and our entire government system is the lapdog of a foreign government.

In this one thing the democratic party is as bad as Trump. Just plain old evil and corruption, for money.

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 weeks ago
  1. This plan was initially discussed during the Biden administration, and Biden didn't provide any pushback against it.

  2. Democrats in the House and Senate continue to overwhelmingly support and vote for Israel, even when it is openly committing genocide.

Democratic leaders haven't decreased their support of Israel one bit since the election. In fact, they've doubled down. What evidence do you have that Kamala would have been any better of this than Trump. Both parties are united in giving 100% total support to Israel. You can't support something more than 100%. Both parties max that stat out.

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Israel of all countries turning into a full-blown fascist state complete with its own holocaust would be really funny in an ironic way if it wasn't so deeply sad and tragic.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

The cycle of abuse on a national scale. Its crazy to see.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Good job everyone who advocated for 3rd parties or abstained because this ghoul was ‘the same’ as Biden or Harris. I hope you’re sleeping well that razing Gaza is the same as not doing that.

Great work. Perhaps you’ll get a discount on the new trump branded resorts they’ll build on that land, which we fucking warned you he wanted to do years ago.

I’m done trying to warn people. You won’t fucking listen so I’m wasting my breath, and these ‘I told you so’s just taste too bitter.

Wake me when you’re ruffling the ashes of your own countrymen from your hair (or don’t, because I’ll be seasoning your egg salad with what’s left of my bones).

e: MItHC reference, and since I’m both disabled and queer, I’m going down with this ship

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So many of the “people” saying that were Russian trolls, I can’t imagine actually buying into it though… like if your ideology aligns with a Russian troll farm how do you even continue to function? Like, reassess your life ffs

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Trumps collaborating but this was always zionisms goal and method. Lets not hang this completely on America. This is Israel.

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