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Reddit has informed moderators of communities that are still private in protest that they will lose their mod status by the end of the week. Thousands of communities went dark earlier this month to push back on the company’s planned API pricing changes.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

If you reply to let us know you’re interested in actively moderating this community, we will take your request into consideration.

Translation: “shut up, be a good little bootlicker, and we might let you keep working for us for free.”

Fuuuuuuuck those people.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

The advertising and crypto spam bots are ready. Is spez?

[–] ZephyrXero@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Yep. I got one of these messages last weekend. So what did I do? I created a new replacement community here and pinned a post to the re-openned subreddit encouraging people to migrate.

But I created it over a decade ago, grew it myself from nothing. I'm not giving up mod status

[–] Cloudless@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

In plain English:
"You are no longer allowed to provide us free labour."

Wake up mods!! You are working for Spez for free.

[–] Sterile_Technique@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago
  • Change rules to EULA levels of obnoxious detail

  • Perma-ban every infraction, no matter how minor.

Mods can still make their subs go dark... one user at a time, lol.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Well reddit can unmoderate deez nuts

[–] Mozami@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Reddit removes the ability for subreddits to go private.

[–] apis@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Set subreddit designation to NSFW, then unleash waves of bots running AI hentai generators, ideally set to ingest the output of same.

[–] popekingjoe@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

There's no way this is gonna end badly! /s

[–] sentient_loom@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago

So are they going to hire people to mod all those subs?

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn't they make this threat already once? Is this like that parenting thing where you keep shifting the deadline but acting like there'll be big consequences?

[–] Niello@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

They also likely cannot do it. While they were sending pms to mods they completely failed at targetting private and restricted subreddits that aren't part of the protest, including ones that have been privated or restricted way before this month. And people saying there will always be people to replace the mods forgot how not-smooth that is going to go. Besides, the more Reddit antagonise its user base the more unstable it looks. It seems that despite the traffic returning to normal, many ads still haven't returned.

[–] May@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So when they said they respect users right to protest what they actually meant was that they dont. got it.

[–] Niello@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There was some discussion in /r/modcoord on how mods could actually sue Reddit for free labour. I'm not sure how viable it is, but at least it seems to me like there's some ground to stand on.

https://libreddit.privacydev.net/r/ModCoord/comments/14jue57/is_reddits_moderation_structure_illegal_an/

There is also this part "Under FLSA regulations, an individual cannot volunteer services to a private, for-profit company."

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing that!

Seems like Spaz may have crossed the line but it’ll take someone with deep pockets to take on Condé Nast publishing to find out.

[–] Melpomene@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

As long as you protest in a way that is ineffective, zero impact to Reddit, and makes good ol' Spez feel special, you can protest all you want I guess?

At least we now know that Reddit cares 0% for their users. Glad I migrated over.

[–] Retrograde@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So is kbin kinda the same as Lemmy, then?

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago

kbin is to lemmy what gmail is to hotmail

different software, but they talk to each other. they have slightly different features and UI, but they accomplish a pretty similar goal

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, they post to each other's sites

[–] Retrograde@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Nice, still trying to wrap my head around the separate instances. If they were truly federated, wouldn't they all tie into each other or am I missing something?

[–] phosphorik@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] solidgrue@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] solidgrue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

...and I am also on lemmy.world! Wheee!

[–] FuckFashMods@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

They do.

https://lemmy.world/post/828058?scrollToComments=true

This is the lemmy world link. you can see kbin users comments there.

[–] Kichae@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

They don't tie into each other in the sense that they share login credentials or anything like that. But they do send messages - posts, comments, favourites, etc. - to each other, if those messages are requested, creating a network of synchronizing content mirrors.

[–] tal@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

The thread you are commenting on is on a lemmy instance, lemmy.world, submitted by a user registered on that instance.

You and I are both users registered on kbin.social.

We can all see each other's submissions, submit content on communities, comment on them, etc.

If you are registered on a kbin instance, you'll be using the kbin Web UI to view the same content. That's what differs.

[–] r2dj@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I think the best analogy is email. Email is built around standards, and it doesn't matter if you use outlook or gmail. That's similar to the fediverse (the standard) and knime/lemmy (the email providers in the analogy).

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also remember that with the cross-instance propagation within the federated servers you can never really delete your post(s). (At least that’s how it was explained to me…)

[–] Inductor@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

When you delete a post, your home instance sends a federated deletion command. If every server is running lemmy/kbin as-is, then your post will be completely gone. But anyone could modify their instance to not delete posts.
I think if you want GDPR style deletion, you would have to contact each instance admin individually.

[–] ImTiagoSousa@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] Hypersapien@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I guess my subreddit is too tiny and little-used for them to take notice of.

[–] LostCause@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

At this point I feel about the mods like I do people in abusive relationships. It‘s sad, but you can‘t stay in this relationship and expect to be treated well. You need to leave it, there is shelters available and I can tell you about that, but if you refuse to see how this is wrong and stay willingly, then there is nothing I can do.

[–] zelifcam@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

52.99 out of the 53 million daily active Reddit users have no idea anything is happening. And if they eventually do figure it out, they wouldn’t care. I’m kinda over these “Reddit bad” posts.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

People follow content and discussion, not user count. A site with a thousand active users could easily topple a site with a million doom scrolling 'users' .

[–] Drunemeton@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’ll take awhile to settle down, the post under yours, in this thread, explains why: https://lemmy.world/comment/642636

[–] redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.com 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's better to focus on growing the federated communities so by the time Reddit fucks up again (they will) the fediverse will be the clear path of migration for another wave of people that want to get out of Reddit.

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