A large investment in xAI might give you access to a member of the US government. That's not something you get by investing in Walmart or Visa. Yes, this sucks.
this post was submitted on 17 May 2025
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You can do that for much cheaper with a camper van for a supreme court judge.
Hell, a $50 doordash gift card would probably work.
i hate to say it - and i wish the whole thing would burn to the ground - but there's probably no investment more safe than xAI right now. you have to think like an investor, and you have to devoid yourself of any moral itches. invest in stupid, you can't lose.
Grok is the laughing stock of the ML field. It’s horribly inefficient, performance is not good for its size/compute, and it’s “leverage” (Twitter’s userbase, Tesla cars) is objectively at risk. They’re even more closed than OpenAI, much more than Google. They only exist because Elon burned billions on a shit ton of H100s and seemingly copied what others are doing.
xAI (so far) is a joke. That could change, but unless they do something interesting (like actually publishing a neat paper or model), if they were even public, I would short them.
for now, i'm totally satisfied knowing that he's spending money on a bot who tells everyone that he's a dick.
I completely agree with your assessment. In theory, shorting would be the move.
But you can't forget that the supreme grifter has the full backing of this insanely corrupt regime that will fully allow him to induce a massive irrational pump of his worthless junk.
I mean, just look at Tesla stock. Fully irrational.
You seem to be under the impression that market favors product quality or company performance which has been proven wrong over and over again.
It’s always some mysterious unauthorized person who has access.
We know that must be bullshit, but just for grins, let’s pretend it’s true for a second. How shitty is your security and access policies. Is there no oversight, peer reviews, change tracking. You’re going to spend all this money on all this fancy hardware and then let Big Balls and the DOGE squad copy/paste their script kiddie bullshit into anywhere in the system? That’s a big problem. Almost a bigger problem than if musk did it himself.
If I was an investor I’d probably rather hear musk say he did it himself and he’s sorry and he won’t do it again (lol) rather than hear some anonymous unknown unauthorized user can fuck up your “system prompts” or whatever they call them.
It’s not just xAI with the ability to do this to their models.
Now, maybe access is more restricted, or maybe it’s the same and this came from the top; point I’m making is this is not an xAI problem, they’re just dumb enough to make it obvious.
Hell, this is a problem with search engines, or cloud services.
Why the FUCK aren’t you self hosting if you are serious? They’re running the train on you.
Same thing as the sig heils.
If he didnt do it why arent they removing it and apologizing for it? Rather than saying "oh you mean the one where our AI shouts buzzwords like apatheid good, bless south africans, kill all minorities, marry children thing? Dont worry, it was just one of our guys."
It was just elon doing another offence for which any reasonable society would ship him the fuck out of the country or arrest.
"white genocide" is a big talking point in South Africa... So yah.
So much so that Trump had to give refuge to them when he is removing everyone else. The white guys of apartheid families were being "treated very unfairly", which in Trump speak is "someone white being held accountable", or even more commonly just hurt feelings.
Anyone who invest in shady companies don't give a shit.
Money speaks.
my immediate reaction when hearing their explanation was that their entire infrastructure must be completely fucked and that the admission alone would prevent them from operating... anywhere. they effectively confessed to failing every basic security principle there is and as a result they can not be trusted with any data whatsoever without a thorough, independent audit.
like, if this was actually an "unknown actor" we would either have gotten a cve number and 90 day grace period, or a complete shutdown and an animated ascii skull. the entire way they went about this shows their entire operation is untrustworthy, and the fact that they're apparently not seeing that makes it even worse.
gives you pause that one person can have immense unchecked power over an arbitrary thing that's overpopular right now? sounds like a perfect pitch for the pigs with investment bucks