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It will be a great day when the fediverse defederates from all the tankie instances.
Hexbear tankies really are something incredible. I've been around left-wing politics most of my life and in the real world I've met like one or two people actually like them. Difficult to understand where they all came from. I'm thinking maybe it's a r/Pyongyang where it started as a joke and then they started taking it seriously.
I think they’re just the people who’ve gorged themselves on the most propaganda
I call them the MAGA of the left, they hate it, but they’re just as big of zealots for their own beliefs as MAGA is, they defend tyrants who’s values appear to align with theirs on paper and don’t understand the concept of nuance.
They believe in only black and white and the idea that gray exists, and the thought they could be (are) morally gray, along side almost everyone else, is intolerable to them, they have to be “Good”, no shades of gray allowed and the way they prove it to themselves is by constant virtue signaling and purging to stay on top of the imagined “morally pure” pyramid they’ve convinced themselves exist - a lot of them are ableist and don’t consider disabled people in their grand schemes
Life is messy, people are imperfect, they’re almost never a completely correct option that serves everyone equally. They want logic, which is simply making something internally consistent, context is irrelevant, they do not want philosophy which strives to incorporate as much context as possible in order to come to a conclusion
r/chapostraphouse, if that subreddit rings any bells. Lemmy was the place they came for refuge after getting nuked off of Reddit for brigading (shocking, I know).
I don’t remember such aggressive Russian and Chinese propaganda on that sub
I wouldn't be surprised if these aren't real people or they are being manipulated by very effective propaganda the same way the qanon are.
If you look objectively, the various tankie movements are a net negative when it comes to promoting socialist ideologies. Its having an inverse effect of whatever they're trying to accomplish.
I’m thinking maybe it’s a r/Pyongyang where it started as a joke and then they started taking it seriously.
I know. The same thing happened with The_Donald. It started out as a meme space. It's where Donnie as "The God Emperor" all started. But then people actually started taking it seriously.
So I guess we have Reddit to blame for the situation that America is in right now.
Thanks Reddit!
In the comments to their repost of my post here, they're mocking my use of the word politics, but it's all twisted like you described. On Gamingcirclejerk, it's used satirically to mock bigots who say that people of color, trans people or women are political and thus unwanted in video games, but here in the Hexbear reading I'm suddenly the same as those people for not expecting a gaming community to be about the actual politics of authoritarian communism.
alot of cities, or regions were infiltrated by other right wingers, or tankies in the subreddits.
I agree, most of the tankies we're plagued with online simply don't exist in irl leftist spaces, because no one likes them and most people in irl spaces understand that you don't get to call yourself a leftist and support authoritarianism in the same sentence.
If a tankie ever went public in the Baltics countries and said that shit out loud they would immediately get a well deserved beating. From some perspectives they're equivalent to nazi sympathizers because thats what they basically are.
Ukrainians have the same problem with neo-Nazis as other ex-Soviet countries.
Holodomor is a bit of a fuzzy matter, it's picking a part of the more wide scale events relating to Ukraine and calling it genocide of Ukrainian people, while genocide involves intention to wipe out an ethnic group.
This was more of Stalin's USSR treating people as expendable and hunger as acceptable when he needed the resources to build heavy industries for the military. Most of the grain producing areas of the USSR were in Ukraine and south of Russia, which is also where most of the victims were, because grain was taken by force according to planned norm and to fake reports (as it happens in such systems, administrators overreporting gains and underreporting losses).
So I somewhat feel strange when people talk of it like genocide example, but people arguing against that are usually worse, so let it be.
Anyway, the point of this comment was - those people don't even think of such things, they act purely on vibes. Most of Soviet propaganda was intended for people literate in the first-second generation, it relied on vibes even more than, say, Nazi German propaganda or Western propaganda of that time and of our time. That allows it to work on people very far from Soviet reality or knowledge of USSR's history. (Of course, there were more intelligent levels of Soviet propaganda, they seem almost fully forgotten, include marxist dialectics, optimism of the future, dreams of a united peaceful planet of intelligent people using their lives for learning and creation, and no war and violence. Would be weird to expect tankies to be familiar with anything of that.)
You can't reason with people acting on vibes. Your comments' vibes for them are predefined, you don't affect them.
What do you mean by vibes exactly?
Music, art style, socrealism in portraits. Soviet architecture (the monumental and decorative kind). All that.
Getting banned from hexbear is your initiation into the broader world of lemmy. It happens to everyone who isn't a tankie at some point. Wear it with pride
I mean, their name and description say it all. They appear to fuse two rather telling themes:
1- “Hex” : as in the fraudulent cryptocurrency scheme launched by Richard Heart (real name: Richard James Schueler), a notorious spammer and lawbreaker who ultimately faced the consequences of his actions.
2- A shameful endorsement of communist-style authoritarianism : essentially, a system that violates basic human rights while promoting a fully centralised, stagnant, and corrupt regime devoid of meaningful technological progress.
Frankly, if I got banned from a place like that, I’d wear it as a badge of honour, LoL ❗😂
putin sympathizes with elon nazi musk. I wonder what they think about him.
Musk can't be a nazi, he is white, loves trump, hates minorities, wants white power, supports putin and comes from a family with strong beliefs. There is no way mr putin would befriend nazis, as he is waging a war against invasion of nazis right this moment.
I think thats what they think.
*comrade putin
That's the funniest thing. Like, if you were an original Hungary-era tankie, at least you could say "the Soviet Union is the leader of the worldwide Communist movement, I believe what the SU says about itself." But Putin's Russia is explicitly not Communist or Socialist in any way. Putin's ideology is inconsistent but his public statements are all basically imperial or "blood and soil" nationalism. How do they twist this guy into being a "comrade?"
They will claim to hate him (and Trump), and then keep on regurgitating propaganda constructed in favour of him.
They despise Trump and that's why they love him. They're an accelerationist death cult.
Well, now you know why sensible admins defederate from this trash. I'd suggest using an app that allows you to block instances from your side and ignore them.
You’re better off, they suck.
I'm reading through the comments and, yeah, they really do. Holy shit what an insufferable bunch, especially that Seasonal_Peace guy.
Indeed, nothing has been lost.
What do you expect, it’s HexBear. They make ML look like neoliberals.
And now you know why most instances have defeated from hexbear. It’s extremely toxic.
Yah, that’s why people call them tankies. Any criticism of the USSR, or even acknowledging why people criticize it, is a banable offense.
The term tankie get’s thrown around a lot, to the point of dilution, but the origin of it comes from western communist who defended the Soviet Union putting down the 1956 Hungarian revolution, notably using T-54/55 tanks. It later came to mean western communist that would ignore or downplay any criticism of the USSR, as “propaganda”. These days it could even be applied more broadly to “People who call them selves left wing or communists but who will defend the actions of any authoritarian regime so long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies” IE people who defended Assad and Putin.
I think hexbear fits even a fairly narrow older definition. Which is why most major instances are defederated from them.
long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies
Man, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Russia isn't even opposed to the US, as long as the Christian white supremacist fascists are ruling things.
The sheer irony of people playing defense for a white supremacist fascist state and then accusing someone else of being a "fascist sympathizer". Like dawg the call is coming from inside the house.
how can i remove hexbear, grad and ml from my lemmy? i use boost app. thx
You can block posts from different instancs, but you cannot block comments.
I'd recommend you switch to a server that blocks them, like lemmy.ca, sopuli.xyz or discuss.online or use a different software like piefed which supports proper blocking (piefed.social).
In the app you can mute posts from instances, to also get rid of the users you need to use the webpage as someone else mentioned.
To mute the instance in the boost app go on the profile icon, lower right, settings (upper right), "Filters & blocks", there you should see the option "mute instances", type in the instance handle and posts from that instance shouldn't show up anymore.
Hexbear is a septic tank of degenerates.