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[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

lenin was as bad as stalin, he just didn't have enough time.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

On many issues, yes, on homosexuality specifically, no.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it more that the Soviets abolished all tsarist laws and simply didn't get around to homosexuality after that? They certainly had more important things to worry about, for better or worse.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

On one hand, yes; on the other hand, it was deliberately left out of both of the revised Soviet law codes before Lenin died. Considering that the Sovs were running an effective one-party state at that time, it's not like they were hard-pressed for political capital and in need to carefully choose what they proposed.

I find it more likely that Lenin, unlike Stalin, simply did not care about the issue or care about wasting Soviet resources on persecuting LGBT folks. And considering the time period, that's far from the worst stance possible.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Also Stalin:

Rape and subsequent murder/gulag is fine tho, as long as its coming from one of my inner circle, and it doesn't affect me or my daughter personally.