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Not a fan of it by any means, but it shit down ~11 days ago and no one mentioned it.

Every link to something on the instance redirects to this: https://imgur.com/XpxDJTg

Since lemmy posts are links, every image post is now that image.

The admin (local account on lemm.ee https://lemm.ee/u/hamid@vegantheoryclub.org ) said it was because of the harassment culture on lemmy (https://lemm.ee/post/64686772 ), and blamed sunshine and beaver for doing something? (https://lemm.ee/post/63664605/20610349 -- the post this is in reply to is gone, but the comment is in the local copy of the person's profile.)

Anyone know what happened?

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[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Got shut down after this post on MOG was made:

Which he (Hamid) responded to with this:

This was the last comment he made:

I think I am for real I’m done with Lemmy lol

This is the funniest part of the harassment thread

This comment is talking about Sunshine/Beaver who came to my instance after that. I had nothing to do with it πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ

tl;dr: he was sick of getting into lemmy drama

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
  1. Makes deliberately inflammatory comment to make a point
  2. People are mildly rude in response to the inflammatory comment
  3. HOW DARE YOU, I'M LITERALLY CRYING, I'M GOING HOME FOREVER

1 is fine. 2 is fine. That's how things work. I have no idea, though, how someone who reacts with 3 expects to be able to manage ordinary day-to-day life. Let alone weigh in on a situation of death and destruction and geopolitical crime against humanity. Like, if this is your bar for what makes you quit, your movement is going to be pretty fucking easy for the establishment to destroy.

I'm not saying that everyone needs to toughen up and put up with whatever treatment they receive. I'm just saying that, in particular since it looks like the #2 response was actually quite a bit milder than the #1 inflammatory original post, the DARVO reaction featured in #3 seems kind of needlessly extra.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the DARVO reaction featured in #3 seems kind of needlessly extra.

One fine example of such:

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 6 points 3 weeks ago

I looked up the context because I was kind of curious, and I really remembered why I don't go to those places on the federated internet anymore.

Well, partly because I am banned, but also because it is a hostile waste of time. They are both valid reasons I guess lol.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I don't blame them, lemmy drama is shockingly toxic as hell. I don't blame them removing the instance and retiring as admin.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy as a whole feels very toxic, i don't blame him at all and wish him the best.

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[–] Blaze@piefed.social 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It can be tiring at times, but it's unavoidable with a federated model.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Its unavoidable on centralised platforms too.

[–] Blaze@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, indeed. Ironically, it's much less visible because it's silenced by the admins.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Which he (Hamid) responded to with this:

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/44049036/18793149

That link seems to be broken.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oops, sorry :p i can see it fine because admins can, didn't realize users can't. Here's a screenshot:

DING DING Hey Sunshine, get a life you fucking loser. It is weird that you are obsessed with me and have to follow me around on Lemmy but I would find something better to do with my time. I wrote this specifically on a week old inactive thread to see how long it would take for you to post this on your harassment sub you sick creep and it actually worked LOL. Having a difference of opinion about anything doesn’t mean you need to follow someone around and post about them and create drama. Making dozens of accounts so you can manipulate Lemmy is truly unhinged behavior. Get mental help you stalker.

This was under a normal megathread for the instance

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[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I noticed that vegantheoryclub.org now redirects to that picture on imgur.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mentioned that in the post :P

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

My bad. Me not read good.

[–] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago

He Bóbr'd his last kurwa 😭

[–] stopharrassment@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I took it down because I couldn't find an admin to take it over. The admin I appointed to didn't stick with Lemmy, because Lemmy is wack.

Every time I would participate I would be thought-policed by an unhinged stalker @Sunshine@lemmy.ca and I am grew tired of being followed and am extremely angry and upset about this thread.

I am sending DMCA/GDPR/PIPEDA requests now to all the Lemmy admins and the Internet archive to purge the data from Vegan Theory Club.

Sunshine is unhinged. She disagreed with my request for feedback about defederating from SJW and decided to use an alt to post about me in tankiejerk - we didn't actually end up defederating.

She then spent months following me around different parts of lemmy screenshotting me to post in harassment communities like meanwhileongrad and this community to police my thought crimes. She goes on to manipulate the threads and the votes in these threads using an army of alts, many were pulled by a python script I wrote to get the communities they mod and look at the other moderators and tying them to the voting accounts.

I wrote about it here

While doing this she created alts like aqua@vegantheoryclub.org and aqua@lemmy.vg to participate in my communities anyway after being banned.

Its creepy as fuck, so by the time I finally had enough of Lemmy I wrote a "pro hamas" post on a week old thread to see if they were still following me around to post on the various lemmy harassment communities and within one hour they posted it to meanwhileongrad. By the way, they are talking to themselves on that same comm here posting with their alts https://lemm.ee/post/65494823/20832743 this behavior is weird and unsettling.

Another user has collected the receipts https://lemmy.zip/post/21904442/16833845 @jerkface@lemmy.ca @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat

My internet friend toomanypancakes is not an "emmissary" of VTC, VTC no longer exists. Your behavior Sunshine is creepy and upsets me and I just want you to STOP. Delete the screenshots. Stop posting here, LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

I will not use this account again, I have moved on from Lemmy but this was brought to my attention. I would like this thread to be removed and I am asking the admins of lemmy.ca @Shadow@lemmy.ca to please remove this post. I do not want this to continue. I do not want users psychoanalyzing me. I just want this to stop and for everyone to leave me alone. I removed the instance so I am asking as nice as I know how at this point. You can email me for verification at hamid@vegantheoryclub.org.

@kersploosh@sh.itjust.works please DM me an email address to send a formal request to purge my data from your servers if you would be so kind. I tried to fill out the form listed on your whois.

I am sorry that I, an Iranian born mizrahi, doesn't have right-think for the users of Lemmy. I regret using Lemmy and being subject to the culture of bullying and harassment here. I may say and think things that aren't approved by American western chauvinists, I do not deserve to be followed around, screenshotted and mocked because of wrong-think. If this is how Lemmy is, I want no part of it.

Feel free to write whatever harassment you want here. I will not be reading this again. I hope this thread is removed and I would like to exercise my rights to be forgotten or at the very least not highlighted and harassed by lemmy users. I do not have any other alts or use Lemmy anymore. I have a job, family and real-life friends to occupy myself with. Good bye.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 18 points 3 weeks ago

This is so bizarre. None of these links back up any of these accusations. All the fire and passion of someone who is proving their case is there, but nothing is actually proved. There's a claim, and then a screenshot / link, but the link never lines up with the thing being claimed. It's all just either another thread full of accusations or else some random Lemmy-drama that isn't related to the claim.

I would ask for detailed proof (What is the output of the python script? You say it proved that Sunshine was using an army of alts, can I see the proof it created? That seems like that would be good to include as long as you're doing screenshots and etc.), but you say you're quitting Lemmy, so I guess there's not a point.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I didn't even notice, lol good riddance they were on their way to making the Tankie Triad the Tankie Quartet lmao

Now, if only we could get .ml to shutdown

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 14 points 3 weeks ago

We can do worse: make it irrelevant.

[–] VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Lemmy.ml lives rent free in your head, have a day off pal

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean it's a pretty influential instance since that's where the lead developers reside. It would be pretty normal for everyone using lemmy to have them "live rent free in their heads"

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

β€œlive rent free in their heads” doesn't mean to be aware of someone, it's talking about obsession. That cm lad constantly tries to bring up ".ml" out of nowhere to incite drama, and I just took a glance at their user profile and holy moly it's almost entirely just reposting from lemmy.ml.

Like just look at https://lemmy.world/post/30613970/17403019, a content creator is asking them to stop reposting their work to a certain community and telling them how it's harmful, and cm0002 is just using that as an excuse to handwave it and soapbox. This is unhealthy antisocial behaviour.

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[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (24 children)

Admin always wanted it to be a small instance for friends, he was pushed into federating by sunshine, who is beaver and several others as well by my understanding. Then the political situation in the US continued deteriorating, and between the risks, the stalking, and all the general harassment that comes from operating a public vegan community he saw no benefits to keeping it up and shut it down.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Really? because I saw them mention they made it because of hexbear.

[–] stopharrassment@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

I was banned from Hexbear in 2021 before federation.

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Can you please elaborate on, "by my understanding"

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Holy shit. This comment section is a train wreck.

possible Spoiler for Season FinaleI think all of you are just alt accounts from one and the same person who initially wanted to make Lemmy look more populated to draw in more users. But with time sanity went belly up and now the split personalities are fighting against each other.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You are also one of the personalities.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The rational personality leaves!

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[–] wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Upvoting for thought-provoking spoiler properly marked as spoiler.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

The comments have passion I will give them that.

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