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The team's interrogation lasted more than two hours, during which all our phones and laptops were examined, and many photos - including personal ones - were deleted. The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

You know who else kidnapped journalists? ISIS.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago

It's tough work hiding your genocides

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 184 points 1 day ago (33 children)

That's definitely not the behavior of someone trying to cover up war crimes.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

They don't care that what they're doing is illegal because they are going to get away with it.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago

Come on, it's our best friends the Israeli government. At worst, maybe there were one or two war misdemeanors. Nothing to blow out of proportion.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This is absolutely typical of this criminal regime – and these are far more than empty threats.

Israel deliberately kills journalists, as evidenced by the fact that more journalists have been killed in Gaza in the last two years "than in the U.S. Civil War, World Wars I and II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War (including the conflicts in Cambodia and Laos), the wars in Yugoslavia in the 1990s and 2000s, and the post-9/11 war in Afghanistan, combined".

Number of Journalist and Media Workers Killed, By War Source: Watson Institute for International & Public Affairs - News Graveyards: How Dangers to War Reporters Endanger the World (full paper here)

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

the chart should do a better job emphasizing the length of these wars. or use averages per year.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, the chart is not ideal.

However, my intention was simply to give an impression of how ruthlessly Israel prevents any reporting on what is actually happening in Gaza.

I think this comparison is sufficient for that purpose, especially since it puts into perspective the enormously high number of media representatives who have been killed in Gaza. I think this makes also clear that the reason for this is most likely that Israel is deliberately targeting media representatives with all means at its disposal – including murder.

But you are absolutely right: this would become even clearer if it were made more explicit that the enormous number of war killed Journalist in Gaza refers to less than two years while other wars were much longer and also more extensive.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Assigning each war an Average number of journalists killed per year (total killed divided by duration) would visualise this even more starkly.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why are the two world wars grouped together? I understand they might not be the most significant war for people in the US, but they are some of the most influencial wars in history and named World Wars for a good reason ...

I can ask the same about the VIetnam, Cambodia and Laos wars, but they seem to be in the same timeframe at least.

[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

I'm afraid the paper doesn't give a concrete answer to that. The historical figures and the discussion of the Gaza War are used here more as background information or for comparison. The focus is mainly on the challenges of modern war reporting, with an emphasis on the wars waged by the US.

I, on the other hand, only mentioned this study to give an impression of how ruthlessly Israel treats journalists. Or even more than that: that this state is obviously deliberately and by all means preventing objective reporting — the reason seems obvious: in my opinion, Israel is committing crimes against humanity and is doing everything in its power to cover it up, apparently not even shying away from deliberately murdering journalists.

In my opinion, there is no other explanation for the absurdly high number of media representatives already killed in Gaza especially in comparison with other, much longer wars that also had significantly larger conflict zones.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Disgusting.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The officer threatened us with worse consequences if we approached the frontier from the Syrian side again, and said that they know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

Honestly surprised IDF didn't just shoot them as soon as they realized they were journalists...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_the_Gaza_war

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They are Western. Harder to dismiss them as Hamas like the 220 Palestinian journalists they've murdered

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I could have sworn they've killed BBC journalists before, but there's none on that list so you may be right.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They've banned all Western journalists from Gaza so they don't have witnesses from Corproate media. I don't think media are complaining as it makes their job of whitewashing genocide easier.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 3 points 1 day ago

It's getting harder and harder to frame the IDF as the victims.

Similarly, it's pretty hard to claim you're the victim when you knocked your neighbor unconscious, dragged them into the basement, and beat them with a baseball bat for the next 24 hours.

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[–] madjo@feddit.nl 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, that's what an ally, who's doing nothing wrong, would do... totally.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well you know, new axis powers are forming, Isreal, China, Russia and the US.

George Monbiot called it “The New Axis of Autocracy”

he also added Belarus, Hungary, and North Korea to the list as “minor partners”.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Why stop at Gaza right? Israel has a lot of neighbors, might as well walk right into Iran or Lebanon and just start murdering people too!

The tell tale sign of how awful the zionists are is that they aren't picking a fight with Iran. Syria fell. Syria is starting to rebuild. Palestinians had barely any organized resistance. They only fight those who can't fight back. Almost exactly like another genocidal maniac in the 1920s-1940s.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 16 points 1 day ago

And yet the BBC makes no mention in this article about Israel's "genocide", no mention of their "apartheid", and the only result my ctrl-f for "crime" (aiming to detect "war crimes") was one of the promotional links to a different article where they invited "both sides" to argue in a debate, as though it's two equal sides.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 day ago

That had to be absolutely terrifying, which I’m sure was the goal. There is not one IOF soldier that is innocent. They need to be put down, the lot of them. I long for a day where there is a long wait at the gallows for each and every one of them. Hanging them would be too kind.

Fuck Israel.

Sincerely,

A now non-practicing Jew.

[–] CompostMaterial@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I sure hope they had multiple cloud backups.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

They keep saying that word. I think it does not mean what they think it means.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

know everything about us and would track us down if any hidden or un-deleted photo was ever published.

"if you go back to your country and post anything we will murder you"

Personally I'd just use encrypted backups or data recovery and post literally everything I could, possibly with a taunt calling out the coward who can only threaten people when backed up by billions in military funding and personnel.

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