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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

I’ve got Irish heritage. My dentist asked me about it because I have a red beard (brown hair). She explained that people with red hair are less responsive to Novocain. I always knew I wasn’t bullshitting that the dentist hurt me as a teen. Finally, proof!

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Not only Novocain, but lots of different types of anesthesia. Im a ginger and have woken up in several procedures, even after warning the doctor I probably would.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The band Eels in their song Novocaine for the Soul claims that efficacy of that drug is linked to having a soul and as we all know ginger do not have one.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 48 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

like.. were a nation of immigrants. it's part of your identity in the US.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 18 points 4 weeks ago

Not according to ICE.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 36 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I think some people just like to be in touch with their ancestry which isn't suddenly cringe when you're white. But I think for some other people it's genuinely part of their victim complex. Irish people were among the most oppressed white minorities back in the day.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 weeks ago

Irish people were among the most oppressed white minorities back in the day.

Most of the Irish Americans I know are just keen on dishing it back out to whatever Other they can target. I'm also related to most of the Irish Americans I know, so take that as you will.

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[–] Sergio@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Guatemala is awesome. The countryside is beautiful and the people are descended from one of humanity's major civilizations, the Mayans.

I realize OP is only half-serious, but they still come off as really ignorant.

[–] Omnipitaph@reddthat.com 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

As someone who is doing a massive research project on the Maya peoples right now, that civilization was technologically way ahead of the game! They had toilets with a sewage system, clean aqueducts and water purification measures, and ball sports a thousand years before the colonizers that fucked em up. A THOUSAND YEARS.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 10 points 4 weeks ago

Not to mention the 200 000 people cities when in Europe a 50k city was considered big

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Idk lol some of our ancestors are just from a place and sometimes that place is Ireland. Want my white-ass to lie to you instead?

I'm Hatian now.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 13 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

It's just a very foreign thing for us eurooeans. If we're born in Italy, but some grandparent was born in Germany, we don't consider ourself to be german in any way. We'd consider ourself italian and nothing else. It just seems so incredibly odd to even consider oneself to be german if you didn't spend time growing up in Germany.

[–] ViperActual@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I think the reason it's so prevalent here in the US is because the vast majority of the population ended up here at least in part due to immigration. So identifying as ethnically originating from elsewhere is a part of that self identity.

The disparity however, is knowing that while traveling through Europe, this style of self identification falls flat because simply being ethnically from a place doesn't mean you can claim to be born and raised from there. And that meaning is what's different between the US and Europe.

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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I guess that makes sense. We have our "heritage" pushed on us from a very young age, or at least we did when I was a child. In the 4th grade we did an entire reenactment of immigrating through Ellis Island, NY in which we had to research our countries of origin, then draw from a hat to see if we died on the journey, got small pox, or any other number of things all before being "accepted into the wonderful cultural melting-pot that is the United States".

Then we grew up and learned that all immigrants are evil and must all be deported. /s?

Regardless, my family immigrated from Ireland after having lived in County Cork for a very long time. This whole post just seems like shitting on people just to shit on people.

Sad thing to be, nonsensical thing to want to be

Well, thanks for calling me sad for a thing I'm mostly indifferent about and have no choice in, OP.

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[–] DrSoap@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I have a friend who came over from Moscow and is an immigrant to the U.S. herself. A few years ago she started telling me she has Irish heritage and she knows it because she felt it in her bones and can see it in her dreams. Now she goes twice a year to 'reconnect with her roots.' She was so confident that she did a 23andme and it showed that she was 99% of her heritage with a 1% broadly european. That 1% is what she is now claiming is her Irish portion.

I don't know. I really don't even know.

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Mine said I was 0.2% Mongolian so now I endearingly tell stories of my Grandpa Khan.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 weeks ago

You need to be listening to The Hu now all day every day to reconnect with your roots. And also just because they are awesone

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[–] supernicepojo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We as Americans lack a certain amount of culture, we look to our pasts and see what it is our families have come from. So many Irish came here, for so many reasons, the cultural heritage barely came with it, leaving a big gaping hole in what we tend to identify ourselves with.

I like to use the analogy of the Native American Indian who was displaced and massacred, captured and forced to go to Indoctrination camps as children. Where they applied the β€œkill the indian, save the child” methodology, abhorrent to think of, its not far off from cultural genocide.

So, we look back and find our parents and grandparents nationalities, where they have come from, we adopt what little we know of what it means to be Irish. All thats left here is Irish bars and St Patricks Day, Boston and Chicago. Americans will happily tell you about their heritage but its not a long story to tell. We are the children of immigrants striving to find a way to make a home and anyone else to connect with for community.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree with 99% of you comment but

We as Americans lack a certain amount of culture

Is just plain false.

American TV, film, music, fashion, food, technology food and to a lesser extent sports are so influential on the world stage they aren't even thought of as American half the time.

Like it or not, half the world's wearing blue jeans drinking coca cola watching Hollywood movies or posting about it on shitter while rock or rap plays in the background.

[–] supernicepojo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought that would be the point I would get called out on. I tried to phrase it around what capitalism makes, its such a short sighted cultural influence that bears very little of what we internalize. I see our American influence everywhere, but we still lack something more concrete to anchor our individual identities.

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[–] paranoia@feddit.dk 21 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

What a fucking weird and racist post. "not even the Irish want to be Irish"

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[–] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's the same nonsense as invoking "the luck of the Irish". Said by people who have absolutely no idea about Irish history.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 10 points 4 weeks ago

Darn those extra lucky Irish.

In Fact it's well known that they fought overwhelming on the north side of the US civil war because they knew which side was gonna win from their luck, and it had nothing to do with recognizing slavery as another form of the serfdom they just escaped from.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

Citizenship question: my grandfather's parents were born in Ireland. My grandfather, who didn't know he had been adopted until much later in life (by a Jewish woman), became an Irish citizen in his 50s and had dual citizenship until his death.

As a desperate American.... can I get Irish citizenship through my grandfather, a naturalized Irish citizen who was not born in Ireland?? I can (understandably) not find an answer to this on the Irish citizenship website.

Sincerely, an American who spent 12 hours protesting at a No Kings rally yesterday

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 weeks ago

I don’t think so, it has to be more direct IIRC. I’ve been looking into it too, for the same reasons. My Great Grandmother emigrated here… nope.

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[–] Mist101@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Uh, 'scuse me, I am proud to be Irish ~and Scottish, both from about 400 years back~ I take pride in my heritage by regularly listening to Celtic music.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

come out ye black and tans, 24/7/365

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[–] psychadlligoat@piefed.social 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I use it to explain my massive capacity for alcohol

"I'm scotch/Irish on one side and German on the other, 3 generations both sides and they bred in the community until my parents!" as I'm on my third boot and finally starting to slur my speech lol

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I usually joke "The Polish in me knows how to drink, the Irish in me doesn't know how to stop."

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

They want to be European, but don't want the stink of colonialism, whilst also feeling like rebels, so Ireland it is!

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

I bet they also question "why would anyone want to be a woman?"

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Irish and Italians are interesting because they were historically considered 'colored' or at least on the same societal rung as colored people.

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