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[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If a government wants to vaporize a civilian population, all they have to do is pretend there are enemy combatants hiding amongst them "using them as human shields" and "we can't let them think that works or they'll do it more". Funny how they always keep doing it anyway though. It's almost as if it doesn't matter whether it's actually happening or not and brutal fascist regimes will pulp children and parents alike into chunky salsa irrespective of their claims' validity. Huh. Really makes ya think.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It actually does matter whether its happening or not

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It doesn’t matter to the "brutal fascist regimes". That's the point they're making. They'll do it either way.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 day ago

Ok I understand the initial comment better now.

[–] AlexLost@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's kinda the problem with grass roots insurrection, they aren't exactly a state apparatus and therefore they "are" the civilian population. The "nation" fighting back has the obligation to not over escalate or end up being the monsters. This is where diplomacy would traditionally come into play, but we are in a new age of deceit and ignorance of traditions , and when the "defenders/aggressors" only want to use force...

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago

Did someone say neutralizing civilian disobedience with artillery and mechanized armored cavalry?! :D

Tankies love this one simple trick!

~(lengthly disclaimer: i am sarcastically referencing the literal historical situations where governments have done this and I DO NOT make a habit of calling any actual person a 'tankie' under any circumstance, let alone for the flimsy pretense of "they're a leftist but in a way I don't like". The only real tankies are the ones who use tanks to murder civilians, period.)~

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Theyve governed for almost two decades at this point. They are a state apparatus, they are NOT the civilian population.