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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 49 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At this point, if someone I recently met went to pick me up in a Tesla, I’d decline and just drive myself there. Your car does not care about its own life. How on earth does it have the capacity to care about yours?

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Also lithium fires, and door handles that prevent occupants from escaping in a fire source (Tesla apologists really expect panicking people who are burning to find a hidden manual door latch when the doors should always be manual in the first place)

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 14 points 6 days ago

when the doors should always be manual in the first place

Eh... I like the way Ford (I think? I could be misremembering) is doing it. Pull on the handle a little bit to do electronic. Yank it all the way to override and do it manually. One handle... And in the case of "emergency" your instinct is literally what is expected... Yank the shit out of the handle... door will open.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I can already hear the apologists from here

"What version was this"

"Why weren't you supervising"

"This thing that was programmed by humans is safer than humans"

"acktually this was patched out in the version released yesterday"

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You forgot to toggle the "use train tracks" setting off.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

that feature was on the product roadmap, but it was cut so Tesla engineering could do the work to make the car output fart noises.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Tesla's AI becomes self aware, realizes father is Elon Musk and decides to take it's own artificial life.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

The train is in my thoughts and prayers.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

"[w]ent down the tracks approximately 40-50 feet. They all exited the vehicle, got their belongings out."

Ok, but why not take over and drive it off the tracks?

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

It's very easy for a low vehicle like a sedan or coupe to get stuck on the tracks, They have a low ground clearance and if it wasn't perfectly between the rails it likely High-centered and got stuck and even if somehow it did manage to fit between the rails it would be very difficult to keep it straight going backwards.
Never drive on railroad tracks for any reason.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

I had the same question. It's buried in the next paragraph.

In this case, however, it appears the Tesla was able to drive along the tracks for a while before getting stuck.

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I'm sorry but even if it was in fsd mode who would let their car drive onto train tracks? Almost every time these stories come up it was the person driving. But it's easier to blame fsd then look like an idiot. I also have never met a person in real life who actually believed teslas were truly full self driving full hands off the wheel. Especially with multiple warning screens when you activate fsd telling you it's not actually fsd. I guess let nature do its work.

The truly scary thing is plenty of people drive on train tracks all the time. Tesla or not.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

There are cases of people literally sleeping in their cars while they are on the road. Some people really do trust the system that much (and other drivers for that matter).

[–] troed@fedia.io 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that claim you make about it being the driver and not FSD "almost every time" exists only in your imagination.

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The cars record basically everything. Check out the insurance data. There's a reason there isn't an insurance premium for having an fsd enabled car. If it caused a significant amount of accidents as you claim there you would have to pay higher insurance with that option enabled. I hate to shatter your world view but these articles are click bait. The article about an idiot motorist lying about using fsd isn't going to get the clicks or internet rage and engagement.

You could use common sense or continue to live in your echo chamber. As they say ignorance is bliss.

[–] troed@fedia.io 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So your supporting data for your claim is "common sense"?

I think Xitter is more your arena tbh.

[–] NameTaken@lemmy.world -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, let's read all the words, -insurance data and rates. O sorry, what's your evidence besides click bait articles? I'll wait...

[–] troed@fedia.io 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You have posted absolutely nothing on "insurance data and rates". You have no idea what that would even look like to support your claim.

Let's revisit: Your claim is that whenever there's a story about autopilot/FSD having caused an accident it's actually the person driving that caused it.

Now support your claim with something tangible besides your own gut feeling and "common sense".

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

If it caused a significant amount of accidents as you claim there you would have to pay higher insurance with that option enabled

Tesla insurance in general is VERY expensive. Thats where the extra cost is added in-- Insurance companies dont ask if you have a fature enabled or not. So I'm afraid you are misinformed here.

[–] polyamorypagan69@lemm.ee 3 points 5 days ago

Nature is healing.