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[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I cannot spend more than 15 minutes with friends or family without hearing liberal propaganda. I just heard my friend and step dad going on about how the protestor who got shot at cop city had it coming. πŸ’€

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

New polls have our marxist party as the fourth largest in Flanders and third largest in Wallonia. We're also the only party still growing with the rest decreasing in popularity. And we ain't stopping bby

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

In a rare moment of honesty, Dutch media are now reporting that the Americans knew that Ukraine was going to blow up Nord Stream. Well, honesty is not really accurate. They are blaming a rogue Ukrainian force and the US and Zelensky couldn't do anything. But at least Russia is not in the wrong according to them.

[–] KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dude the footage coming out of Ukraine the last couple days has to be some of the worst in the entire war. The UAF is just getting slaughtered by all kinds of arms. Russian firepower and the degredation of UAF capabilities there make for something truly disgusting

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so bad it looks like Ukraine is pretending it didn't start its counterattack, for fear of bad press.

[–] KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I mean I don't blame them, some of those videos are horrendous and they aren't even fighting over the actual prepared defensive lines, they're still on the contact line. This is probably far from over, but so far this is just sad to watch and I don't mean that in a derogatory way at all

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

A while ago Belgium's biggest supermarket chain, who has been in fights with their employees for months now, issued a ban on striking which effectively put their workers in a stranglehold.

The Union (my future employer, yay,) has fought this ban in each State and judges in the first one agreed with them, effectively reversing the ban on striking. This is a huge win for the workers ✊🏼 but the fight is not over yet.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Liberals have the most insane copium supplier I need me some of that shit

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

I knew xi was a bourgeoisie stooge! He's providing liberals with his best copium instead of us!

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Dedollarization is real, never in my life i thought i would see USD < 20 MXN again (mexican currency). Right now it's 17.3.

[–] Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

guess which subreddit

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Currently I am planning on making a thread about how the Empire of Japan suppressed homosexuality, a subject about which not even Wikipedia has much to say. There is (unsurprisingly) little literature on this topic.

I did find a book titled Queer Japan from the Pacific War to the Internet Age which has a chapter on this, but it deviates a lot… sometimes in sickening directions:

[Disturbing excerpt]

The reference to the public toilet is significant, it being a common metaphor for brothels, which were understood as places where men could evacuate their excess desire. Indeed, the term "hygienic public bathroom" was a euphemism sometimes used to describe comfort women by Japanese soldiers (Shin and Cho 1996: 53)β€”"hygienic" because, unlike unsupervised prostitutes, the military enforced a strict health code on brothel workers so as to prevent the spread of venereal disease. Soldiers were thus encouraged to think of the bodies of prostitutes as little more than "semen toilets".

I don’t mean to compare atrocities, but this is the same kind of feeling that I suffered when I saw a preview of the film The Grey Zone, which reenacted an Axis vehicle dumping a literal truckload of human ash on the ground.

I need another break from studying; this is fucking sick.

[–] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Is it just me or the rest of Lemmygrad just feels like GenZedong expanded?

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To get some positive but very local news: Antwerp's chapter of our party had two good victories this week!

We managed, through action, to keep a bus line in the city running.

We also, after two years of action, managed to ban a new, elite Maritime Campus high rise from being build in one of the city's green areas.

This was all done through campaigning, petitions, visits to people living in the area etc.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Excellent work! Gotta ask about the bus line - were the authorities planning on closing it? Removing the buses?

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes the government is planning to cancel 5000 stops in the country. This line was part of the plan as well, but through local action the plan for this line got cancelled. So while this one line is saved, many others are still facing problems. The fight continues.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

5000 is a pretty dang large number. What are the given reasons for this? The usual "it's not economically valid" (aka unprofitable in short term)?

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

The standard neolib idea that public transport has to generate a profit

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

lmfao a raging redditoid lib from lemmy really did just mass downvote every single posts and comments i made

[–] AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ComradePupIvy@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gorgeous as always comrade

[–] AYJANIBRAHIMOV@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Tashakkur Rafiq aziz (thank you dear Comrade) πŸ˜„β€οΈ

[–] KommandoGZD@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why do libs and anarchos always have to play the semantics game man, it's so fucking obtuse and annoying

elaborate point how Western imperialism exploits and underdevelops the global south

uhm wow, can we not use language like underdeveloped please, that's so problematic

Their productive forces are literally less developed, their mode of production is literally less developed, it's a technical term not a normative statement about the worth of the people living in those countries or even those countries broadly. Also thanks for derailing the conversation about imperialism

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

because they have no meaningful response, it's either that or call you some variation of Putin Puppet

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Why do libs and anarchos always have to play the semantics game man

Idealism, would be my guess. Remember that quote about "changing names of things to change things themselves"? Words are essentially magic to them. It's not cracking down on protesters, it's "enforcing public order". It's not using drones to indiscriminately murder people in the other side of the world, it's "employing cutting edge technology to defend against terrorism", and also the pilot is a woman, you bigot!

Their productive forces are literally less developed, their mode of production is literally less developed, it’s a technical term not a normative statement about the worth of the people living in those countries

And now time to catch some flack from the comrades. Try using this term to describe the native Americans during the colonization. If you feel your eyebrows furrowing at me - the productive forces of the Iroquois, or Hurons, or Odjibwe were, last I checked, less developed than those of western Europe.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am pleased to announce that I LANDED THE FUCKING UNION JOB LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Congratulations comrade!!!

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy it is infested with liberals.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you get a feeling they're inflating upvotes? Look at the numbers Yog's posts get vs what posts by reddit live get

[–] chay@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Kinda related, there was a point in time where pro-communist posts on Lemmy would just get downvoted with the same number of downvotes, so I suppose the same botting strategy could be applied.

[–] Darkerseid@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I want you guys to look at this thread. this is being shared around these days because there is ongoing exodus from reddit to lemmy these days.

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106839809077880828

they are name calling this instance etc.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

That person is such a fucking loser man

β€œSweaty, please dont use that open source software because the devs dont agree that russians are subhuman orcs who should be elimanated πŸ₯ΊπŸ₯ΊπŸ₯Ίβ€

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

did a bit of praxis today and wrote a lot of stuff for socialism and writing pro-socialist sounding statements (and some anti-capitalist sounding statements) on my sociology exam today (when one of the questions asked me to describe about the 5 stages of society described by marx).

i'll probably get shit marks for it, accused of memorizing from chatgpt (when i don't even have a fucking chatgpt account + i hate memorizing) and i'll probably even be called out by my sociology teach to "explain wtf i wrote" but lmfao i regret not. a. single. thing. πŸ’…πŸ’…πŸ’…

especially when she said absolute nonsense such as "marx was ultimately incorrect" and that "there'll always be some people better than others and therefore it'd be unfair to give them the same thing as someone who puts the less amount of work does" (this part i'm 100% sure is bullshit nonsense about socialism but i'm too uneducated on this to make a refutation; but i just know this doesn't make any fucking sense).

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"there’ll always be some people better than others and therefore it’d be unfair to give them the same thing as someone who puts the less amount of work does"

refutation example:

How would one measure "amount of work" other than in time? If it's measured in output, that's not the amount (quantity) of work, it's the quality of work, and this is affected by many factors outside of the worker's control (educational opportunities, economic situation, interests, genetics, etc.), so it would hardly be less unfair to pay one person more than the other for the same quantity of work because of that. If someone is unable to perform labour for any reason, that is also largely outside of their control and it would not be less unfair to let them starve to death. There's also no principle preventing workers with dangerous or highly stressful jobs from being given additional collectively agreed-upon benefits

at this point she might pull out the old "people would just be lazy if they're all paid the same per hour of work", in which case you can ask her if she chose teaching over other occupations strictly because it pays well (which it usually doesn't, at least in the West)

[–] Speedmaster@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The bourgeoisie and the capitalists by extension always had the same "talking points" and "arguments" through the economic history of the world. The quantity and quality of work was always "put to question" when a change was imminent. When the slaves revolted in the third servile war in Rome there was talk about how the barbarian slaves were lazy, when the serfdom and feudal slavery in Europe was being abolished, the bourgeoisie always agreed how a human free from their idea of work and happiness is a "threat to society". So knowing history is always enough to beat that kind of "facts" that come from the elites.

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