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[–] BlurryBits@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

Well lets see, you are coming out of one of the biggest tanks ever for the gaming movie franchise. The online mentions are far more jokes about your IP than any kind of nostalgia.

Sure, go exclusive! And make sure you code 60% of your next project with AI - the gamers will love it!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The ego on this guy is just unprecedented. It's Borderlands, most people can take it or leave it.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My take is that Borderlands 1 was boring, Borderlands 2 had decent game play but was held up by excellent writing and characterization and every Borderlands game since has been trying to recapture the magic of the second game but just feels hollow. They aren't terrible, but they aren't amazing either.

[–] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I feel like borderlands 1 was boring but had some high points, but the dlc really started to capture what the series would become. The general Knox dlc is still one of my favorites.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 90 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I find it endlessly amusing how popular Randy thinks the Borderlands games are.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

They're objectively extremely popular.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

They are objectively less popular with the newer stuff.

Tiny Tina's Wonderland is at 25% for recent reviews, 70% overall. That's not glowing. And with their new ELUA a lot of people are planning to boycott. I don't think Borderlands has the pull it once did.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And with their new ELUA a lot of people are planning to boycott.

I hope so, but i was expecting more people to boycott Nintendo, and yet the switch 2 was the fastest selling console of all time. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone does the old "I'm sure it's fine if I get a copy"

[–] three@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I think people on the internet vastly overestimate the support these boycott movements actually have. For every person here or wherever else saying they're not buying a switch, there's 10,000 parents buying one for their kids, or people that just wanna play mario kart with their friends.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And typically the boycotters weren't even the sort of people who were buying a switch 2 to begin with. Maybe there's a subsection of them that will result in some loss of sales but it would be in the fraction of a percent. There's no surprise to me when gamer boycotts fail.

With that said, the sales were unexpectedly high. Maybe people trying to get ahead of potential future tariffs were the reason. I thought cost of living was fucked and nobody could afford anything.

I'll be waiting for the inevitable OLED refresh anyway.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Tiny Tina is a spin-off, and I doubt the EULA changes will result in much more than the Modern Warfare 2 boycott. Borderlands 3 still sold multiple millions of copies before it even had its first discount, and over 15 million copies total. It was still in high enough demand after an Epic exclusivity period to get hundreds of thousands of concurrent players when it eventually launched on Steam. It's one of very few multi-billion dollar franchises in video games.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 16 points 3 days ago

Just not as popular as Randy seems to think.

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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 30 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Why are people taking this even remotely seriously? This is Pitchford doing marketing for BL4. BL3 already showed people don't want Epic exclusivity and there's no such thing as Steam exclusivity. They can choose to release exclusively on Steam but that's just artificial exclusivity because nothing about Steam prevents them from releasing on Epic or GOG.

It's a pointless poll made by Pitchford either to keep BL4 in the media cycle or to just shit stir, possibly both.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are Steam exclusives, but it's because the publisher chose it to be that way, not because of any incentive by Valve.

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago

That's what I mean by artificial exclusivity. There are games where the developer or publisher decided it's the only platform they will release on but that kind of "exclusivity" is not at all the same as Epic paying developers or publishers to not release on Steam. Valve/Steam doesn't prevent those games being released elsewhere, the developers/publishers themselves don't want to.

I could understand smaller (I'm talking literal solo devs or studios with less than 10 people) choosing to be exclusively on Steam. Supporting other platforms can have huge overhead costs for them. But for a studio the size of Gearbox there's no benefit to being exclusively on Steam. They have enough support staff to manage multiple stores. There maybe be suits wondering if it's worth being exclusively on Epic but there are no suits sitting around wondering whether to be exclusively on Steam or not, the answer is obviously not.

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago

Customers already told them this by not buying on Epic and waiting 6 months to a year to buy on Steam.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I long for the era when fans who were asked if they would swallow future exclusivity deals would stare blankly and say, Wat?

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

While deals weren’t really a part of it, exclusivity has been a feature of console gaming from the very beginning.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So has fire insurance on game company office buildings, but fans never cared about it or boycotted games over it, etc.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You went from apple and oranges to apples and bolt carrier groups.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ok let me Sheldon it for you: Yes, deals existed "back in the day" as the saying goes, but fans were not aware of (or reactive to) the business aspects of gaming enough for the deals to be the subject of headlines or controversy.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just pointing out your example was a bit wild. I fully agree with your other point. Although I would also point out that the early exclusives were that simply because it just didn't occur to devs to release a game on more than one console.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Better if they don't, as they don't deserve people's money.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

Boy, they really are pulling all the stops in trying to make the game shit, aren't they?

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Fucking don't. Put them on GoG.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 days ago

Just don't make exclusives. Steam, GoG, Epic, whatever.

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[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Denjin@lemmings.world 2 points 2 days ago

I will wait for torrent, if at all

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

5.6% of [respondents] users said they wouldn't pre-order [on Epic] knowing it would influence exclusivity, 2.7% said they would.

They really brought in those big dollars with making Borderlands 3 a timed exclusive on Epic. A whole 9%. Meanwhile, 91.6% of respondents preferred Steam. Bravo, Randy. Bravo.

Disappointingly, 53.9% still would buy it on Steam if it influenced exclusivity going forward. Even if it is Steam—which has a record of providing better service than its competitors—exclusivity helps nobody.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Randy's twitter poll was stupid. He should have asked "if BL3 is exclusive, will you buy it on that platform?" With the options

  • Yes, if it's steam
  • Yes, if it's Epic
  • No
  • STFU Randy, your breath smells like farts
[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Doesn't matter if you wait a year or two to get it at the non-hype price with full content included

How does that guy still have a job?

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