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[–] HadManySons@lemmy.bond 167 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Only if you don't know what Cloudlfare does. It protects against all kinds of attacks.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 115 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yeah this post is nearly upsettingly ignorant.

Cloudflare is just about the only big internet company out there objectively doing good things for the Internet.

[–] danwardvs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This seems like saying road construction makes driving objectively worse or security guards make a stadium venue objectively worse.

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[–] txmyx@feddit.de 91 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Single point of failure for the whole internet.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.

If they had competition, that wouldn't be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there...

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

There exists competition, they've just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.

They've done nothing to prevent competition, because they're legit AF. The competition just hasn't put a dent in their market share because they're excellent at what they do.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call clourflare a single point.

[–] greyscale@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

Their management control plane absolutely is a single point of failure.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Agreed, and I would say what cloudflare does for the internet (their work on the IETF, generally letting small sites stay alive without needing an SRE to worry about DDoS attacks, etc) outweighs the general negative possibility of them being a potential single point of failure

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[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

We use their CDN, and they do our load balancing for work and they’re great at it.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

There are benefits and costs. Cloudflare makes it easy to maintain high uptime as a small site sysadmin at the cost of free DDoS protection isn't actually free. Cloudflare turns all users of websites that employ it into the products of surveillance capitalism

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 years ago (12 children)

O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?

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[–] InvaderDJ@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Honestly, I don't know how any end user who doesn't understand IT and wasn't around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don't have the information or experience to make the claim.

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[–] dill@lemmy.one 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare

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[–] IzzyData@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Cloudflare is having some weird issues with Discord this morning.

[–] DarkenLM@artemis.camp 11 points 2 years ago

So it wasn't just me. Good to know.

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[–] kn33@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Idk, but my homelab thanks it for the free ZTN and workers.

[–] SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I've ever seen

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[–] kubica@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"So you solved the catcha, ok, we don't care anyway."

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Solve 5 more because you're using a vpn."

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[–] Krafting@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want to upvote and downvote this post.. it's so controversial

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Cloudflare is excellent, this post is nonsense.

[–] lukas3651@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tailscale is the way! Have been running it since January, flawlessly.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I went full rabbit hole and discovered headscale

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To all the upstart website-havers: no, you probably don't actually need to use cloudflare

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hopped in this thread then shortly thereafter got redirected to a cloudfare bad gateway page. It's a conspiracy.

[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago

don't listen to the nerds, cloudfare is trying to steal your soul and sell it to the Big Capybara industry.

[–] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 7 points 2 years ago

I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.

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