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edit: seems like some people interpret “full of” as a mathematical majority which, while it may or might not be true instance to instance, isn’t my intent in posting

feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 80 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (15 children)

Eh... I live in the cousin-fuckingly-deep South. In a city, and I work in a hospital, so I think it's pretty safe to say this is one of the more left leaning bubbles within a hundred miles. ...and there are still a fuckton of Nazis here.

There are absolutely decent people trapped here, but we're legit outnumbered. It isn't just gerrymandering or some shitty system at fault: the majority of southerners are just fucking evil.

There's always some thinly veiled excuse - "We don't hate women, we just want to protect the babies!" "We don't hate immigrants, we just want to protect our jobs!" "We don't hate trans people, we just want to protect our bathrooms!" but when you hear them talk amongst themselves about those people it's pretty clear they really do just hate them.

Most southerners are sincerely not good people.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There are absolutely decent people trapped here, but we’re legit outnumbered. It isn’t just gerrymandering or some shitty system at fault: the majority of southerners are just fucking evil.

This. I remember moving from a conservative area in a border state, to the South for a short time, and being absolutely floored by the things that were quite openly said and laughed about. And I was no wilting violet, I was already quite used to hearing vile shit.

"Every population is secretly filled with our allies!" is delusional.

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“Exceptions to the rule” were so ingrained in every one when I lived in the south that it was impossible to have a decent conversation about anything.

My gay cousin is fine, but gay people

My best friend from high school, who is black, is fine, but black people are…

My abortion was necessary but abortion at large is wrong…

My trans child needs gender affirming care but…

My Latino workers are upstanding people but Latinos are…

My EBT/Snap benefits are deserved but people on welfare…

My drug use is fine and doesn’t harm anyone but…

I mean, I know this is a general human trait, but it felt almost institutionalized to a point where people could say incredibly horrible shit about people and then deftly sidestep the contradiction when called out. It really did feel like being in a fever dream (and not from the crippling humidity and heat).

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh God. In my border state conservative area, growing up, that was the constant refrain. I'm borderline having flashbacks, lmao

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Apologies for the memories.

What really made my head spin was encountering the self-loathing types who would argue against their own interests. I recall listening to a man, who had lived with another man for about 20 years, tell me that gay marriage was wrong but that he wanted his partner, who was a few decades younger, to be taken care of when he eventually passed.

That was when I truly realized that something was wrong with everything.

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[–] tiny_iota@endlesstalk.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

yep. had a convo with a friend I've known since 2nd grade about why he would vote for a prezzo who vows to ban all muslims (half my family) he had no clear answer just sputtered that he didn't think he'd actually do it. And if he did he'd protest it.

I told him to shove his fake concern up his ass and he blocked me on all media. These people veil their hatred and pretend we can't tell.

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[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Since 2013 we’ve seen disenfranchisement in Alabama in real time. Require strict new voter id, then close the DMVs in black and left leaning areas. Combine polling places in democratic leaning areas so they are further away and have long lines. Move polling places so they are no longer accessible by bus. Those are just the obvious ones, but the Republicans’ strategy has been to do anything they can to stop people from voting.

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[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m with you. I live in a red state in the north, in a small island of blue, but if I drive for a few minutes in any direction it’s trump signs & bigotry.

I feel like I’m surrounded by idiots. They’re bringing my state down with them. It’s horrifying.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 11 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Sending love ❤️ I truly hate to see would be-“progressives” laughing at the senseless deaths and violence just because some 30% of them voted a certain way.

It’s one of the ways that capital keeps the culture war lit, I find. Breed hatred and dehumanization for a people group while gleefully stripping that people group from self-determination at every opportunity.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm seeing a very ugly side around Lemmy the last couple of days. It's nice to see posts like this!

If something is despicable when your adversary does it, then it is despicable when you do it.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 weeks ago

We are not immune to propaganda! ❤️ It’s on all of us to help each other out, finding our blind spots.

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Food for thought. If youre a working adult youve invested in this country. You have every right to expect something in return. Like the expectation that your investment hasn't been squandered for the purpose of evil.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 16 points 2 weeks ago

i thought it was human nature for my paycheck to go to bomb apartment buildings several oceans away while my neighbors die of preventable diseases???? im confused

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It probably sucks being trapped in a red state while having empathy.

Hopefully, enough of them gather and enact tangible change.

Otherwise nothing will change.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

We try. We get shot & forgotten.

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[–] stardustsystem@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I can't do shit about that in Pennsylvania. You'd think there would have been more an effort to disprove the allegations or fix the problems sometime between 1865 and now.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Guess what! People in the south frequently can’t do shit about it either. If you would like to blame this on the people who live there for not voting correctly, please explain to me what you think ‘gerrymandering’ and ‘disenfranchisement’ mean, and what the average person living in the south is supposed to do about this shit being greenlit by SCOTUS.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Both things can be true: vote manipulation measures and voters choosing horribly.

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[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

And every time a city tries to do something good, the state steps in and stops it. This happens daily in Birmingham, Alabama where the state is constantly overturning things the city has passed or the state takes the ability away from the city.

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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 2 weeks ago

There are rights organizations that work across state borders for these causes. Not trying to shame, just putting out there that there are outlets for your talents, time, money, or even just verbal support.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can replace "south" with "US" and it's just as true.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

honestly very correct. someone else pointed out that even the worst of us states were only 70/30 maga.

call me a bleeding heart lib but i don’t celebrate the suffering of 10 people just because 7 of them asked for it. 🙃

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I solve this by not liking anyone anywhere.

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't care about the color of your skin, your gender identity, your sexual identity, your political identity, what country your from, or your legal status here, I hate all humans equally, I just want to be left alone.

Narrator: And that children was the prophet who taught us to hate equally and mind your damn business.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/texas-news/national-weather-service-alert-timeline-texas-flooding/3879084/

U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem said Saturday it was difficult for forecasters to predict just how much rain would fall. She said the Trump administration would make it a priority to upgrade National Weather Service technology used to deliver warnings.

Sure, Kristi. I'm sure you'll say anything for headlines

During a news conference early Friday morning, Kerr County Judge Rob Kelly said he didn't know why the camps hadn't been evacuated, but that the county did not have an early warning system or outdoor sirens to alert people to flooding conditions.

“We’ve looked into it before … The public reeled at the cost,” Kelly said.

Democracy, but stupid people are making your voting decisions

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[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah, if only the MAGAts could read.

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[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's clearly not full of them though. It's full of human scum who do horrible shit on a daily basis and actively harm everyone in the process.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 weeks ago

i think some people interpret “full of” differently and that’s a fair gripe to have with this post

as i said in the body text, feel free to swap in “has a lot of” if that’s more familiar language to you :)

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