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The team behind “Superman” is responding to the backlash after director James Gunn said the DC tentpole is the story of “an immigrant that came from other places.”

When asked about the reaction to his comments, James Gunn explained that the movie is for “everyone” and that he doesn’t have “anything to say to anybody” spreading negativity around “Superman.”

“I’m not here to judge people,” he told Variety at Monday night’s “Superman” premiere at Hollywood’s TCL Chinese Theatre. “I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 46 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Conservatives unable to grasp basic plot points of a story thats been around nearly 100 years. Color me unsurprised.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 2 hours ago

"When did Star Wars become woke?!"

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 53 points 5 hours ago

From a 1949 book cover distributed to schools by DC.

MAGA is basically opposed to truth, justice, and the American way, aren't they?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They were hoping to see a movie about the Ubermensch, not this woke comic book fake news!

Nah jk they don't read.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

They don't want Superman; they want Homelander.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

Some guys really like guys. Most guys I know love to listen to guys sing! These guys even try to dance like the guys dance! Its pretty acceptable these days. I like both the guys and the gals.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

or at least Snyderman.

[–] Penny7@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

To the limbo 'how low can you go'

How dumb can you get? How dumb can you get?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I only know the Ludacris version. Somehow it's still fitting.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 25 points 9 hours ago

They really do live in their own little bubble huh? Like dude is a literal alien, and they think he is a home grown hero.

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

DCU heads in their best J. Jonah Jameson voice:

FIND ME A SINGLE TWEET THAT MAKES A CONTROVERSY OF THIS MOVIE!! WE NEED FREE PUBLICITY DAMMIT!!! IT WORKED FOR DISNEY, IT WILL WORK FOR US!! GET ME ~~THOSE PICTURES~~ THAT TWEET!!!!

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

How can you not know Superman's origin story? Apart from the comics its been retold in every major movie version too. He literally is and always was (weird retcons aside) an immigrant.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 24 points 10 hours ago

Excuse me ~~Jesus~~Superman is white, therefore American!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 11 hours ago

A literal alien.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

I'm pretty sure I knew through popcultural osmosis before I ever saw any of the films

Some people weirdly don't connect fictional scenarios to real life analogues though. Like in the Oz books, a princess is kidnapped and forced to grow up as a boy. Some people don't see that as a transgender character because it's a fantasy scenario. Some people don't see Superman as an immigrant because their brains just don't connect a science fiction situation with an alien to immigration

[–] Penny7@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Right? I haven't seen any of the movies. The only Super...person stuff I've seen is CW's Supergirl and I knew his origin story when I was a child in the 90s.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Hence the entire point of the original Star Trek. Morality plays disguised by alien makeup, so the mouth breathing rednecks didn't realize.

[–] Bytemite@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

I've found that people who don't understand or enjoy media literacy or criticism also don't tend to understand the concept of an analogy/allegory, and don't want to either. Superman represents the "American Way" and can't be an immigrant and the idea that America is a nation of immigrants is not relevant in any way. Only the old statements from Bridget from Guilty Gear count and not any of the new ones that confirm she's trans. Naoto from Persona 4 and some similar stories like hers in other games can't be a commentary on social pressures around restrictive gender roles, dysphoria, and performativity simply because she ultimately still identifies as a cis woman. You can explain the nuances until you're out of breath, they will never accept the nuances.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There was a post a while ago where someone was explaining that Star Wars was an allegory for the Vietnam war, and the next guy was all "well that's not true, unless the Empire is supposed to be America!"

Like they're so close to getting it, but their brain swats it away before it can become a fully formed thought.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

These are the people who think that Hermione being non-white in the upcoming tv series is a problem because of how it will come across when Draco calls her a mudblood. Yeah, we can't have people reading it as a racist slur when Draco uses a racist slur. I'm genuinely confused as to how they read that scene before.

[–] Yaztromo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There are people who write about Hermione feeling uncomfortable as her physical gender after taking the polyjuice potion to become Harry and wanting to transition back to her perceived gender — and who somehow can’t extend that to trans people in real life.

[:Looks vaguely in the direction of Jo Rowling:]

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

One of DC's many reboots in the comics had his spaceship be a birthing pod so that he could be 'born' in America to get around him being an illegal alien.

Definitely one of the wierder retcons.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 47 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

MAGA Outrage Over Director Saying Superman Is an Immigrant

(We're about a decade too late, and our engorged trolls are now our leaders, but still...)

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 269 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (26 children)

I mean... He's literally an alien that came here illegally.

Is MAGA stupid? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 59 points 13 hours ago

Bible: "Jesus says to love your neighbor."

MAGA: "Why do you have to make it political?!"

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 79 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Asmongold. Enough said. Also, most conservative men are opposed to bathing. Something something washing assholes is gay.

They are stupid, useless, and gross.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 54 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

You mean the guy who lives like a pig and has cockroaches climbing on his shirt while live streaming his newest rage fit should not be listened to?

Seriously, what is wrong with his viewers? The content is shit brought to them by someone living in his own literal shit.

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[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 15 points 10 hours ago

Science bless you James Gunn. Keep fighting the good fight.

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 66 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

But they’re explaining only half of the plot an illegal alien is assimilating and it’s making a specific billionaire very upset he can’t continue to exploit his people

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

All I am gonna say is xenophobic Lex Luthor is always the best written Lex Luthor

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago

I think the Jeff Bezos character is based on Lex Luthor.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 16 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Largely because it's a bit valid to be concerned that the indestructible alien could decide he's bored serving the world and just take it over.

Xenophobic Lex is just a compelling villain, a bit like doom. Someone who has a sound reason for their actions, but usually takes really questionable routes.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

I like Lex Luthor as a villain a lot more than I like Superman as a hero for exactly this reason. He's a villain, sure, but his villainy is all centered around this one highly logical and concerning idea of never giving Superman total power because they'd then never be able to take it away from him.

Dr Doom I straight up don't even consider a villain tbh. He's antihero at worst (though he'd be pissed to hear me say so). His subjects love him. A bit megalomaniacal, maybe, but he genuinely wants to rule the world to do what's best for everyone.

If Fantastic wants to fight you because he thinks it's the right thing to do, and Doom wants to fight you because he thinks you're destroying his property, I know which one I'm putting my bet on because I know which one is going to show up to that fight more pissed off. His reasons are weird but Doom does still frequently show up to fight the bad guys, if for no other reason than "this is my fucking planet and I won't have you breaking the place". I love that.

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[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 68 points 15 hours ago (8 children)

I hate the director for deciding to associate a fictional character with societal issues.

Has there been any movie where fictional characters aren't associated with societal issues? I ask because I'm pretty sure every single movie does this.

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

That's wild. Superman fought the KKK and Nazis. He fought for equal rights. My man threw nuclear missiles into the sun in the 80s for demilitarization. Superman is a political figure fighting for a better society. He just also happens to fight big space monsters from time to time as well.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 24 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Show me a piece of fiction which has nothing to say about societal issues and I'll show you a fucking boring piece of fiction.

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 91 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Everything upsets MAGA. They’re petulant children in desperate need of a nap. Sadly, they are using that energy to ruin lives, and destroy a country.

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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 51 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

Party of "fuck your feelings" huh? MAGA biggest cry babies out there. Guess it makes sense.

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