I find it funny that the tip is already there before you get your food. I mean, did the driver make the burrito? He might be late and you get cold food, he might be a dick.
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I just set the tip to zero and put "Will tip cash" in the delivery instructions on the rare occasions I do something like DoorDash.
Unless I order from a.local Chinese place that will deliver. I tip them generously, basically giving the older Chinese guy who usually runs the deliveries an amount akin to what all the fees from DoorDash would have been because at least then it's the restaurant getting the money.
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this is some quality ragebait right here
A lot of people are bad with money and are way too ready to pay too much for convenience. This service has uses, but if you aren’t tied by need to use it, it’s pretty wasteful expenditure.
A lot of people are bad with money and are way too ready to ~~pay~~ go into debt too much for convenience.
FTFY. Credit card debt has hit a new peak at $.121 Trillion Dollars.
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Why does OP think every delivery is made by car? Often times they are made by bike.
Especially in NYC. Bike delivery has been a thing there long before uberdashhub. Hell, it was a fucking plot point in Spiderman 2 back in 2004:
I think it was TMNT 2 that had a delivery guy on a moped back in like 92.
In high density urban settings this is absolutely true. 99% of my orders are delivered by bicycle.
I’ll add in addition to the “not where I live” replies, I live in pretty textbook white suburban america and I believe I have never seen anything delivered to me or a neighbor or relative by a two-wheeled vehicle of any kind, even motorized. Every single time it is a private 4-seat passenger vehicle or larger.
It is different in other areas of course, like when visiting cities and other countries.
But damn are such vast swaths of suburban and rural america designed so specifically around cars. It would take forever to change even with a progressive culture & government. With the culture and government we have now, I will be stunned if I am not driving my own vehicle for the rest of my life, and I will not be surprised at all if it’s mostly ICE vehicles. I drive a well maintained 13 year old Mazda3 that gets 40mpg, so it’s not ideal versus more efficient and environmentally friendly types of transport, but at least it’s a more efficient use of the existing infrastructure than most americans.
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I don't disagree that it's stupid but my problem is the stacking - Delivery fee and Service fee? The service is delivery! Why are they two fees? Either the cost of the delivery is being itemized in real time ($1.99 for gas, the rest for the human) or the delivery isn't $1.99! If the cost to deliver an item is $20 and I make $50/hr working a project, maybe having food delivered makes sense.
But also, I know the delivery guy isn't making all that and he's delivering five orders so don't charge me a service fee when I'm already subsidizing you paying him a shit wage.
Everything is shitty either way.
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None of us need to purchase this goofy ass delivery powered by virtual slave labor. Spend no money, cause no harm. Let those capitalists seethe we no longer need to endlessly consume to be happy.
Said this few days ago and people had a melt down...
God forbid normie has to fix his idiotic consumption habits.
They don't even have to change their habits.
You can get delivery from many local takeaways without needing to send half (or more) of your dinner money to a silicon valley billionaire.
Pizza places in the US now used Doordash.
Even places like BestBuy are using Doordash. Shit is so crazy right now.
Yea, both Pizza Hut and Papa Johns can send orders from their own systems out to Doordash when they are too busy to handle them, when they are outside of their delivery zone (or I suspect when their own drivers don't want the order based on the tip or drive time).
The Pizza Hut in the small town near us doesn't even have their own drivers anymore, just sending them to all to DD.
I drive for DD, and besides a ton of Dollar General and grocery store orders, we also do some Pet Smart, Pet Supermarket, Tractor Supply, Home Depot, Lowes, and Best Buy (I'm sure there are others big box retailers I'm forgetting as well).
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This cuts both ways actually. you can have 10 guys going through a drive thru or one 1 making 10 stops. The one guy making ten stops results in less traffic and fewer emissions.
I worked as an engineer at a food delivery company and I almost never used my own companies app, these companies charge both the customer and the restaurant and the restaurants raise the prices of their menu on the app to compensate for it, plus the delivery takes a long ass time and the food arrives cold. And the business is still mostly unprofitable and these companies stay afloat from investments while they suffer losses.
It's a natural consequence of decoupling value from productivity; and instead relying on data harvesting for predictive analytics as an alternative for anything truly valuable.
We're living in a world in which the wealthy keep coming up with ways to hand money back and forth, while creatinf new schemes to cut out the working class from any resulting 'value' creation.
AI will fuck over workers just like every other technological marvel that preceded it.
I've never ordered food to my door. Not even pizza. The rare times I order takeout pizza I pick it up myself. Unless you're a senior citizen it just seems so wasteful and lazy and comically expensive to have food delivered to you. I mean I get that we're absolutely going to destroy this planet, but holy shit are we speedrunning it.
In my area, I'm going to have to drive 15 minutes one way to the nearest place to pick anything up, so it's not much different than having it delivered. We have never gotten delivery out here, since no one delivers but the third party ones (DD/UE), but someone delivering out here could possibly waste less fuel than I would to pick it up if they end up bring multiple orders out here.
I remember seeing a video about a similar service in the Netherlands for delivered groceries.
They deliver by bike, are faster by bike.
...and still are a bit of a controversial issue.
What's more ridiculous? 10 people each driving to the fast food joint individually or one delivery driver making a round trip to 10 people?
We pay other people to do the things we can't or don't want to do all the time, this isn't different.
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The delivery services are a boon and a bane for everyone. For the restaurant, you no longer need to pay wages or insurance for dedicated delivery workers, but now have service fees that cut into profits. The customer has to cover many of these costs in all these extras fees and service charges, but get did delivered to them. And the driver has to pay for gas and insurance out of the pitiful payments and tips they get. If you are in a rural area, forget about getting enough local orders to cover anything.
Well, sometimes youve had a few beers, then really want some Taco Bell. Better to door dash it than to go driving while tipsy. The service charge is really a 'failed to plan ahead' charge.
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