Six years jail and never getting to hold a license again right?
this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2025
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Considering he was driving while on bail, I doubt he'll stop driving either way
They shouldn't be allowed to even own a vehicle.
6 years doesn’t seem like much. The article says that this joker is a big time serial offender.
He's lucky to have gotten anything. Usually you can kill people in a car and get away without any charge.
Based !fuckcars@lemmy.world enjoyer?
May I also interest you in: https://www.standards.org.au/news/revised-standard-recommends-larger-parking-bays-across-the-country
Luckily, they got massive backlash, and haven't yet actually updated the standard after almost 2 years since.
I'm gonna be really angry if they do increase parking bay sizes.
Gotta love urban sprawl
A lawyer in Canberra killed a cyclist by driving too fast on an exit ramp and missing the road on three inside of the curve where the cycle lane is and where a cyclist was.
He was speeding, was likely drunk as he neither sought help for the cyclist nor turned himself in for several hours after the collision. All in all he was about the worst case of recklessly injuring someone and carelessly leaving them to die
He was fined a twenty thousandth of his salary
If we're talking about Canberra, wait 'til you hear about Mike Hall. His killer didn't face any punishment despite driving an unroadworthy vehicle and obviously not paying attention, to be able to not notice a cyclist in reflective clothing on a straight wide road. He was also probably speeding, but police used an outdated method of estimating speed which declared he wasn't speeding.
☹️ this does not spark joy
As much as we're not the US, it saddens me how much we permit cars to rule over our cities
They should have dedicated truck parking. Have all these fuckers with body image issues all park together away from the normal people.
Let them have their 3495kg vehicles, but have them park with all the other legitimate trucks and make them walk the extra distance to the shops.
I vote we don't do that because it's taking up valuable space that creates urban sprawl. We already have dedicated truck parking (as in, actual trucks, not oversized utes & SUVs) in places where they're needed for deliveries.
Utes have fit in regular parking spots for decades. We should just say - no, these oversize utes/SUVs just can't be bought.
Have you ever wondered why you even need a car to pop to the shops?
Because we've designed our cities around cars. (Unless you live in the CBD or other dense pockets in this country where you can literally just go downstairs. Weekly shop? What's that?).
Let's not have them park anywhere (in my opinion).
Make them buy a real vehicle, not one for emotional support.
I do agree with you, but as long as these loopholes exist, there must be an alternative.
That said, it is amusing driving through certain housing estates where there is one normal-sized car in the driveway; which is being blocked in by the Dodge Ram that is too big to fit in the driveway.
but as long as these loopholes exist, there must be an alternative
The current alternative is pretty funny, if you live in a council who's really strict about parking.
It's really hilarious when people park like wankers in Melbourne CBD because there's an online form you can fill out to sic the parking inspectors on them really quickly depending how busy they are.
I've done it multiple times to people parking in the car-share dedicated spots. It's always Teslas, BMWs, Mercedes.
Though, now we've had this conversation, I'll keep an eye out for oversized car parking too.
Them when they get the fine: wHaT dO tHeY eXpEcT mE tO Do?
Buy literally any other ute/van that easily fits in the spots.
I'm a bastard haha, I can't wait.
Why I think we should do literally nothing to accommodate this ridiculous vehicles, accommodation is a precedent they will come to expect and feel entitled to.
People already feel entitled to large roads, and right of way for cars. Let's not give them a single mm.
That said, it is amusing driving through certain housing estates where there is one normal-sized car in the driveway; which is being blocked in by the Dodge Ram that is too big to fit in the driveway.
I suppose they're doing their best haha
One of my neighbours has a Kia K200 for his landscaping business. Another has a Ram 2500 for his ego.
Only one of them can drive through the estate when there are other cars parked on both sides of the road.
One of your neighbours sounds eminently reasonable
Death penalty seems like a fair sentence for a piece of shit like him
Jesus fluffing christ mate, calm down.
"Ohhhh calm down, they only killed someone!" That's what you sound like. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? If not, shut the fuck up, apologist
I'm not apologising for shit, I just don't believe in the fluffing death penalty. I do firmly believe that perpetrators of vehicular manslaughter should never be able to hold a license again as part of their sentence, so that kinda solves your hypothetical.
Edit: Let me remind you that the punishment for first degree murder in Victoria is only 30 years. I'd prefer to err on the side of leniency than end up like the US.
Many criminals still drive even without a licence. Taking someone's licence does not always solve the problem.
AND THE DEATH PENALTY IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT?!
Edit: That has the same energy as "Criminals will keep stealing bread, so let's send them to a land far, far away from here." Like, the punishment has to fit the crime.
You're arguing against something I never said. I'm against the death penalty. I just don't think taking someone's licence necessarily solves the problem.
Okay fair, apologies I confused you with the other user.
You can say "fuck" here. You don't need to puss out on that. But, you're pussing out on actually punishing blatant disregard for human life so I'm not holding my breath for that. If you want to have manslaughterers released to live amongst decent people you better not cry if you get disabled by a reckless driver
I already am disabled, so thank you for that. You have some dark and twisted ideas of crime and punishment. I hope you never end up in a position of power.
If you take a look at gurnu's feed, it's nothing but nasty crap putting everyone else down. Horrible little shit. Save yourself some angst.
This person turns out to be really pathetic and creepy:
Ditto.
[at]gurnu[at]lemmy.world has been on my own 'blocked' list for a while.
An oxygen thirf who's worth nobody's time...
Thanks <3
I feel people suffer more with life in prison, because I hope most of them will come to a realization of what they did and have to suffer. Too bad there's no hard labor.
Too bad there's no hard labor.
This is how you give governments and corporations an incentive for slavery. The USA has this and, coincidentally, the largest prison population on earth.
Happy cake day!
Fuck suffering. The system should be focused first on rehabilitation and second on seperating the person from society so they can't harm others.
The infliction of suffering does nothing to help society at all. It just creates horribly broken people in prisons and encouraging hate outside.
If someone can't be rehabilitated I see no issue in providing a comfortable isolated environment for them. Hell, give them whatever drugs they want too, who cares, just keep them away from society.
Laws do not exist to punish the guilty, or provide retribution for victims. They are there to create a baseline of acceptable behaviour.
The old adage “the punishment should fit the crime” applies here. The object is to make the criminal remorseful and to understand that violating the law has consequences.
The death penalty does act as a deterrent, (for other people as well), as does Exile (transportation for stealing a load of bread). A sentence of life in prison does not act as a deterrent, nor does a pittance of a fine.
Having to pay restitution to the victim (lost income due to disability or loss of a breadwinner; pain and suffering) will have an effect for those who can afford it.
So you'd want to pay for their upkeep. You do that, I'm not giving one cent for pieces of shit that don't deserve an another chance
Luckily for us, most of society (in Australia, at least) disagrees with you.
The death penalty is barbaric, and has had many, many, many cases of being committed on innocent people in the US.
The justice system isn't omnipotent, it's just humans, afterall. Why yes, let's make the consequence for getting it wrong death, that seems logical /s
This guy is a piece of shit, and in my opinion deserves more than 6 years of prison and a lifetime ban on operating any motor vehicle (or any heavy machinery full stop), but killing him?
This isn't Gilead, and eye for an eye is not most Australians values.
Part of living in a society is paying taxes, and some of those taxes will go to things you don't personally like, but society does (corruption, lobbying and inefficient notwithstanding).
And society has decided we're living in 2025, not the middle ages. We don't kill people. We aspire to giving people a second chance. In the grand scheme of things, prisons represent a tiny fraction of Australia's budget.
I'd say it's totally worth it if it means people's family members aren't being killed for doing something illegal.
There are some cases where the person is question is irredeemable, but I see this as the "cost of doing business" so to speak.
It's the same reason we have innocent until proven guilty, better to let some guilty people walk free than lock up innocent people. And better to let some awful people live, rather than accidentally kill someone who doesn't deserve it.
There's a reason most civilised countries don't have the death penalty anymore.
Just fyi, if cost is your concern, it costs more to give someone the death penalty than life in gaol.
It's literally one less mouth to feed and house. Would you be ready to be the next victim of a reckless driver? Maybe you could give them food and shelter, I really hope no tax dollars go to the upkeep of a manslaughterer
nah. Make him ride a toddler's push scooter. No more license. Only push scooters. Show everyone what a big boy he is
From the article;
"In February 2024, he was caught driving while on bail for the offending which caused Sutton’s death, despite having been banned."
I... He killed a person and left a child with a permanent brain injury. And he kept driving. There are no words
Ausgov: "Quick, Ban snapchat"
The best punishment for this guy is to not let him have a mobile phone, car or licence.
If they do ever let him have his license back, he must also only be permitted to drive a 2006 poverty-pack Ford Focus that can only travel at a maximum speed of 80km/h and takes 5 minutes to get to speed.
But never,ever let him have a mobile phone or Social Media account.