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[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Governor Walz is grieving the loss of our state's house speaker, Melissa Hortman, who was killed by someone influenced by violent extremist Republican rhetoric. As the polar opposite of the Republicans— who would never take a milligram of blame for Hortman's death— Walz is introspective, looking for anything he might have been able to do differently to change this outcome, which is a common part of the grieving process.

So I don't blame him for not thinking clearly here, but the truth is that the sort of rhetorical attacks he was making on the Republicans is sorely needed. Calling them "weird" was clearly a winning strategy and the campaign consultants who got him to stop are at least somewhat responsible for the fact we now live in a fascist dictatorship.

No one would ever mistake Walz's rhetoric as an actual call to violence (even though Republicans would be certain to make that bad faith claim). We need to call out who these people are and what they're doing in a direct, non-apologetic manner. I hope Walz comes around to understanding this and goes back to calling out the fascists.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As a Minnesotan, I'm proud to have him as our governor because he actually works in the best interest of all of his constituents, regardless of whether or not they voted for him. I believe that he is a genuinely good person which is a severely endangered species in politics.

I am very disappointed in how the Harris/Walz campaign built its platform and conducted itself, but I don't think any of it was Tim's fault. If he had been the top of the ticket (with an actual primary), I think things would have turned out very differently. His genuine care for other humans was squashed and sidelined by the campaign in an astonishingly stupid strategy to try to look tough to appeal to centrists and republicans.

[–] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah, Tim has been very supportive of programs and proposals that support the state. I wish more reps had the care and joy he shows. Still wish he could take a harder line here and there, but he is a coach and doesn't seem like that kind of guy to draw really hard lines.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

If Walz is even the slightest bit responsible for what happened, it's because he wasn't aggressive enough.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why regret it? Its literally what we should do. We aren't gonna hug our way out of this one, and believe me I wish we always could.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 21 points 3 days ago

My thoughts exactly... that's what we loved of Tim Waltz, was that he didn't fricking clutch his perls, go "oh my god, did I offend the snowflakes, I'm so sorry". He didn't call for violence, he just called for matching their rhetoric.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Walz is a zionist. If we ever want to win another election, No more zionists in the democratic party. We cant win an election in a supposedly left leaning party while supporting zionism. Beyond that its just wrong.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah. Normally I would never react to the news that someone has a chronic vein disease by hoping that it is fatal or at the very least causes excruciating pain.

But I did that yesterday. 😁

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

Donald Trump is an existential threat. What response is merited by an existential threat?

Walz was never the guy for the occasion, but he mildly emulated it a few times.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Even if the full list is released and there is high quantity photos and videos of trump doing the most disgusting shit you can imagine I’m sad to say that he will still have support. It is a cult, and they will continue to support dear leader no matter what. And they will be willing to harm others if told so by Donny.

[–] tisktisk@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

and waters wet ig

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Anyone else concerned at Tim Walz implying that he is not a person? lol