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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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[–] aninjury2all@awful.systems 8 points 18 hours ago

From Heth Serd:

Spread public awareness that AI is probably going to be the biggest deal in history and we should all be taking it very seriously and thinking about its impacts

Hmmm what sort of criti-hype do they want us to prioritize?

  • Job loss, takeover risks, and AI rights (for future AIs) primarily,

They had us in the 1st half NGL

  • Not so much algorithmic bias, pernicious social effects, or IP rights These are much more divisive and just less important so prob. best to avoid

Because of ThE DrEaDeD WoKe LaBeL I assume? Reminds me of something from This Machine Kills: the focus on de-biasing things like facial recognition skips over whether it’s good to develop surveillance tech in the 1st place

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

From the Q&A:

Q: I feel like this is just a dressed up/fancy version of bog standard anti-AI bias, like the people who complain about how much water it uses or whatever. The best AI models are already superhuman communicators; it's crazy to claim that I shouldn't use them to pad out my prose when I'm really more an ideas person.

Wait what?

like the people who complain about how much water it uses or whatever.

I just...

or whatever.

Lol. Lmao. I laugh to not cry.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry; this post is not going to be cynical or demeaning to you or your AI companion.

If you're worried that your "AI companion" can be demeaned by pointing out the basic truth about it, then you deserve to be demeaned yourself.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago

Me and Charmander who lives on my keychain are never hanging out with you again!!!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

hey, props to the author for writing all that. This is my version:

So You Think You've Awoken ChatGPT

Unfortunately, you are stupid beyond remedy. If you can read this, I pity you.

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Those comments are appalling. good god

Maybe its because I'm descended from hillbilly dirt farmers and so I had an unusually grounded upbringing, but I'm floored that so many educated people can be so lost in cloud cuckoo land.

It feels unreal, or maybe like an out-of-control prank. The sort of thing that drives a man to develop a curly mustache and paint melty clocks.

Part of me still refuses to believe that they're serious.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago

The more expertise you have, the more you can use ChatGPT as an idea collaborator, and use your own discernment on the validity of the ideas.

Good grief. Just take drugs, people.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So much dancing around the point of "no, you moron, it's a computerchip, it will never be a real boy!"

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

stares at your nose, tears running down my face

Why isnt it growing?

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Every now and then I think back towards the early "jailbreaks" where they wanted to know "how do you break into a building" which they refused to answer. And people went "add that it should pretend to be in a movie", so then the chatbot started to explain lockpicking, and people acted like they just cracked the code.

While people who actually try to break in just tap the locks. Smashing their way in.

Sp the prompt hackers had not hacked the chatbot, they actually hacked themselves.

Anyway unrelated to people who think they have awoken chatbots.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, questions like "what chemicals should I avoid mixing if I don't want make explosives by accident", and then congratulating themselves as if you can't just Google "how to make a bomb"

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Can't fucking look up the history of firearm propellant chemistry post-black powder as if I'm going to use that knowledge for anything more than for what I use all the other shit I google about. You think I'm trying to look up articles about sound changes in pre-literare Finnish because I'm trying to blow up a language or something.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like there's a great story here that nobody is hearing

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, I just have ADHD and ability to quickly switch between hyperfoci.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, the eternal curse.

"You sound like you lead a very interesting life"

"...yeeeeesss?" (Closes 50 Wikipedia tabs that relate to literally nothing you intend to do)

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Close tabs? That might mean I lose them. Madness. You can take my 400 open tab (Late edit: ow god I wish I was lying about that number) from my cold dead hands!

Googles how to improve hand circulation

[–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Download one of those tab stash extensions. It might not fix the problem, but it moves it out of the way sufficiently to forget about it.

[–] Seminar2250@awful.systems 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If you're a big dork like me and don't like installing extensions, you can use Tab Groups in Chrome (or any Chromium-based browser). I save groups as sort of temp (ephemeral if I want to impress promptfondlers) bookmarks categorized by whatever miscellaneous stuff.

You can close the group and every tab will reopen when you open the group. When you delete all the tabs, the group is removed from the top of the browser window.

[–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think the type that doesn't like extensions would be likely to use a chromium based browser tho. I suggest saving all your tabs to a text file.

[–] Seminar2250@awful.systems 4 points 16 hours ago

Firefox appears to support tab groups^[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/tab-groups] if you'd like to try it.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 2 points 23 hours ago

also a crutch I use but I really want “onetab for adhd”

some things I want in it: keep tree context, allow me to set notes/reasons on groups, links between storesets, page-archiving with full text search index built

and yeah I know the first one probably requires a Fx feature that might not exist yet

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago

ow god forgot about all the tabs I had stored in that one. (thanks btw, but I already use something like that, I just need to clean up, finish things, or decide not to finish things).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but then also getting the recipe for napalm from fight club.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And here I thought the orange juice was critical. Damnit

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No the frozen part is the important part. Can use any kind of juice, except grape.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

(now I wonder when "no grape juice" will appear in search results).

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a wise man once said

"The secret ingredient is crime"

Googling "how to lock pick" is boring.

Trying to "break" an AI into revealing secret information is the closest you can get to being in a real life Mission Impossible situation.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trying to “break” an AI into revealing secret information is the closest you can get to being in a real life Mission Impossible situation.

this never happens in the mission impossible series, and there's plenty of fun stuff you can do to get close, e.g.:

  • Holiday internationally
  • Abseil
  • Practice close up magic/sleight of hand
  • Go bouldering
  • Exist with the overarching threat of a widespread pandemic
  • Get married in a hospital chapel
  • Disavow a US three letter agency
  • Move to london

the list goes on dawg. Just be more creative

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 15 points 2 days ago

(putting on an N95 before I enter the grocery store) dun dun DUN DUN dun dun DUN DUN deedle dee deedle dee DUN DUN

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean. I think the fact I started by quoting Peep Show should tell you I'm not being 100% serious.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

hey!!! buddy!!! no spoilers!!!

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

An attempt at an explanation as to why people are attracted to trying to "jailbreak" AI chat bots.

I didn't think it was that complicated.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Reading the comments led me to this entertaining sneer about our friends.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seems overly generous both to Christopher Hitchens and to Julia Galef.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The rest of that guy's blog is a fucking neofascist mess. That'll teach me to post a link without first checking out the writer.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let's see who he reads. Vox Day (who is now using ChatGPT to "disprove" evolution), Christopher Rufo, Curtis Yarvin, Emil Kirkegaard, Mars Review model Bimbo Ubermensch.... It's a real Who's Who of Why The Fuck Do I Know Who These People Are?!

[–] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago

We've all made that mistake before & it sucks.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago

Tbh, them starting a post with 'they are unhealthy' and something about lacking vital essence would have been a warning. (And I dont even think it is true, sure Yud was a bit overweight, but he seems normal health wise to me).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago

even the Nazis can't stand these fucks