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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Pretty sure this was reported on before the 2016 election and nobody gave a shit.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Nooooooo trust me bro the list will ruin him bro, trust me. Just one more rape allegation and we beat facism bro they just have to release the list.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 18 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

All his voters wanted to be at the party. When the "grab them by the pussy" tape was revealed, his voters donned "Trump can grab me by the pussy" t-shirts.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 hours ago

Rape culture is the default in USA.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No wonder why he is deflecting so hard. He has walked back so much stuff other than harming people and ruining economy.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't the whole Epstein stuff come up when he decided to run for president? I always wondered if he only ran to be in better control of the fallout.

He ran to avoid jail.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 39 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

...downvoters ok with fucking kids?...

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 14 points 19 hours ago

Maybe due to how they where not invited?

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 172 points 1 day ago (18 children)

All of this news coming out now show you just how terrible democrats are at being a real opposition party. All of this was known and it never came to the attention of the media.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

It shows there are more Democrats on the list than Bill Clinton.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

Who cares, reveal them all.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah this isn't exactly true. I'm pretty sure this was reported on before 2016, and people just didn't care then.

But yes, Democrats are awful at messaging and drop the ball at every opportunity.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

people just didn’t care then.

Which "people"? I thought/think it's fucked up and I wish it was a bigger issue. It's literally media/hegemony that chooses which tales to hype or bury.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago

The billionaire media moguls like the Murdochs, Bezos and Musk don't care for the idea of removing Jerome Powell from chair of the fed and they already got their big bill and Vance. Donald is used up and they can keep this from going away until it gives Donny a stroke from the constant stress.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

They did. Just as the media reported on all Trumps lies, the problem is that his voters couldn't give a shit about any of it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Just as ~~the~~ some media reported on all Trumps lies

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 0 points 8 hours ago

What? Epstein has been a major story for the last 10 years, at least since he was first arrested in 2006.

[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

To be fair, this was all information that was published before. Just like now, it changes absolutely nothing for his supporters.

Not to say that the dems aren’t terrible at messaging. But this seems to be more of a case of Trump having so many scandals that people forgot the details of this one. Saw someone post the other day that they went to Epsteins wikipedia page and had completely forgotten large swathes of it. Its just too much, too fucked up, for people to hold on to it.

And the worst part is, none of it is hidden. The video from the 90s (maybe early aughts) that had him speaking about his good friend ‘who, you know, likes them a little on the young side,’ was from Inside Edition (iirc). Dude casually admitted his friend was a pedo and it gets published as a puff piece.

None of this is new, none of this is unknown, its just unbearably fucked up.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Not to say that the dems aren’t terrible at messaging. But this seems to be more of a case of Trump having so many scandals that people forgot the details of this one.

This isn't an exclusively Trump scandal. Epstein has his hooks in dozens - if not hundreds - of people. Billionaires like Bill Gates and politicians like Bill Clinton and royals like Andrew Edwards, Prince of York This is at least as big as the Jack Abramoff scandal from the Bush Jr era, a scandal that DeLay inadvertently engineered as exclusively Republican through his K-Street project.

It isn't a simple messaging problem. It goes to the foundations of fundraising, candidate selection, and bureaucratic organization. Far too many people are dirty within the upper ranks of both parties.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not as unique as you might think. This might be an elite class issue. A lot of people knew about Harvey Weinstein before he got metooed.

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[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (6 children)

A lot of it was out. The Republicans refused to believe it until now.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (17 children)

The real criminals here are....Obama, Hillary Biden, and Adam Schiff, though! Something something argle bargle "coup" ten years ago! Why won't the liberals see that?!!!

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hillary's husband is on the flight logs, we dont need to play team sports when it comes to child rapists.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Where did they mention Bill Clinton in their comment?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

They purposely didn't because it would completely undermine their point.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Am I taking crazy pills or did everyone else miss that this was supposed to be Trump words? This is the exact thing he would say, and has said to try and distract from himself.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

It will be our little secret party 🫲🍊🫱

[–] Emil_Zatopek1982@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Epstein was a young woman? No way.

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