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Safe to say the petition was a success! Now we will have to wait and see the EU's response to it.

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[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 189 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hope every gaming company out there is sweating buckets at this. This is a matter of consumer rights.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 84 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We don’t want them to sweat, we just want them to do the right thing by their customers

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

These two things overlap under capitalism, as doing right by your customers is only required if not doing right by your customers affects your profits.

We definitely want them to sweat.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The only way I see that happen is having the tools and ability to pirate any and all media like we had back in the napster days. That's the only time I've ever seen these companies scared. A petition I don't think will do much. Plus not only is there this issue. There is also the issue of groups now targeting the way funding works like on steam. Payment processes are now being used to apply pressure where certain groups do not like the content.

The solution was always to defend and protect the people who cracked and pirated content. But I think they were all locked up and threatened.

[–] AgentRocket@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A petition I don't think will do much.

This isn't just any regular change.org petition, that can be ignored. It's an official partition based on EU rules, where EU parliament is forced by law to listen to the initiators and talk about the topic, when it passes.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ok but is there any group or lobbyists who are advocating or will this just be a petition sent to them which they can just ignore.

[–] eatyourglory@feddit.it 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The European Parliament legally cannot ignore it.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To what extent do they have to talk about it, though? Can they address it, come to the conclusion that it's infeasible (while subtly tucking millions of dollars from game companies into their pockets), and consider the matter settled? I understand that governments are meant to keep corporations in check to benefit the people, but functionally they keep the people in check to benefit corporations and their "lobbyists" (bribes).

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 89 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If only the "tax the rich" petition had such a great villain to reinvigorate interest, but I take what I can get.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is an EU petition, not the US.

Doomers coming out in force today

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

???

What does the US have to do with anything I said?

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Many countries in the EU already tax the rich. I mean, it could be better. It could be a lot better, and we still have right-wing types that try to destroy that positive element within the EU.

But of all the countries that would benefit the most from heavily taxing the rich, it would be the US. And since the US has made itself the centre of all the world's attention, and the whole world still uses the USD as the primary exchange currency, anything that would shake up the economy of the US would shake up the economy of the world.

[–] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are no billionaires in EU, didn't you know that?

[–] zerofk@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago

There were, but we ate them.

If only.

Nothing, but that doesn't stop people with Americabrain from making terrible comments here.

The EU has a record of actually passing pro-consumer legislation such as the GDPR and forcing companies to use standardized cables. Claiming that nothing is going to happen because of lobbying doesn't hold up nearly as well as it does in the US

[–] Lazhward@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

My thoughts exactly, I find it very disheartening.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 78 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But how many of these have worked at Blizzard?

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Dude I could code at Blizzard in a smart fridge

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why would that matter? EU is generally not as shit as the US on consumer protection

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a jab at the Pirate Software guy, I believe.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I miss when I didn't have to hear about him all the time

[–] Essence_of_Meh@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'd like to think people would focus on other things now that SKG picked up the pace but he'll most likely be brought up for a long time regardless on what happens with the campaign in the future - even if just as a punching bag for people to feel superior about.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't call it safe. The required margin is unknown and the initiative could still dip under 1 mil.

Additional signatures could still help. If you know somebody who can and hasn't signed yet, ask them to.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

Thanks, PirateSoftware!

[–] je_skirata@lemmy.today 37 points 1 week ago

Keep at it EU gamers!

[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If only someone could garner that much support for StopKillingGazans amirite

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

There's arguably much more support for that, than stopkillinggames.

But the political opposition to stopkillinggames is far less.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Easy to gather, but will likely be ignored, sadly.

[–] szymon@programming.dev 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We should vote out any EU parliament member who doesn't vote ay on that lae

Lobbying against 'SKG' will be massive.

As always - evey problem comes from people voting on conservative and not social-democrats or social-liberals

Every other parties are bullshit worth zero

[–] sk1nnym1ke@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

Gamers unite 💪