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The GOP chair was caught off guard and scrambled—first delaying the vote, then trying to sabotage it by adding amendments to include Biden administration communications. Democrats called their bluff and agreed.

Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED until Rep. Robert Garcia forced a full roll call vote.

Ultimately, the vote passed 8-2 after 3 Republicans DEFIED their leadership and joined all 5 Democrats to pass the motion.

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[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 69 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Just browsed r/conservative for a bit to see the response there. Pleasantly surprised to see multiple posts where the top comment was something along the lines of "release everything, don't care who is affected on either side"

[–] thoon@feddit.nl 41 points 3 days ago (11 children)

They made us think it was conservative versus progressive. Democrat vs Republican.

It always was the elite versus the people

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago

It's also humans with morals vs. Conservatives. None of this would work if conservatives didn't salivate at the thought of making others suffer.

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[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is the most respect I’ve had for them in a long time.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 266 points 4 days ago (9 children)

They even fucking lied?

Then the GOP chair, Rep. Higgins, lied, claiming the motion FAILED

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 143 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

I'm not holding my breath but I'm really hoping that will help maga chuds clue in that the GOP are wholly dishonest.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 4 days ago (1 children)

10% of them saying it was wrong is the best we'll get. Him being charged with treason is what it should be

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 55 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Here's hoping that 10% are our fucking dipshit relatives eh?

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I get what you’re saying, but there are now two very distinct news spheres, and the one that they’re watching will simply not cover this story.

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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I'm guessing Roberts Rules stuff.

As a quick and dirty thing, you can call a voice vote of ayes and nays. If it's not particularly close, it'll be obvious what the outcome is, the Chair will call the result, and everyone moves on. However, any member can call bullshit on the Chair, and then it goes to a more formal process.

So without watching the whole damn video, it's probably that the voice vote went one way, the Chair said it was the other, got called on it, and the roll call vote went against him.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 4 days ago (7 children)

2 people said 'nay' and 8 people said 'aye'... It was an honest mistake anyone could have made.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 22 points 4 days ago

MAGAs can't resist cheating at every opportunity. Here we are again with standard election fraud on a micro basis, but we're supposed to believe that they won the 2024 Election "Fair & Square?"

[–] Atlas_@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

This is unsurprising.

But forcing a recorded count does get those Republican Nays on record so they can be punished later.

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[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 192 points 4 days ago (4 children)

the single person who voted no: "In the opinion of the chair the nos have it"

the multiple people who voted "yes" laugh at the absurdity and call him out on it

how fucking brazen a liar

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 73 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Shouldn't that be like contempt of congress or something?

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 83 points 4 days ago

maybe if laws/rules applied to Republicans in positions of power

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Should be grounds to have his ass beat

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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 44 points 3 days ago (40 children)

Can someone explain to this non-american why the Democrats are treating this as a successful upset when they could have released the Epstein files during Biden?

[–] MrMcGasion@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (20 children)

I don't see anyone saying this yet, but the Epstein files were sealed by a court order for Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. They weren't unsealed until January of 2025. Biden couldn't have released them without violating the court order that sealed them - and possibly giving Ghislaine's lawyers a slam dunk to get her off with a mistrial.

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[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Because they COULDN'T release them under Biden. They were sealed by court order until January 2025.

There is a lot of desperate "both sides" nonsense going on here but the fact remains, Democrats are voting to release them and Republicans are not. If Democrats wanted to cover them up, why would they be doing that?

[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

It’s all bread and circuses until the 1% have extracted the last iota of capital from the rest of us and the country finally collapses.

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 59 points 4 days ago

sooooo GOP chair who blatantly tried to defraud the American people in a cushy government position by abusing his position, he's tossed outta the swamp now, right?

or rather, into the new swamp down in Florida

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 124 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"The no has it" are you fucking kidding me.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 81 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bruh this isn't the first time Higgens has tried this shit either. I find him specifically so infuriating.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 3 days ago

When he was the only person to say no, and then claimed "the noes have it," that was the funniest gd thing I've seen all day. Hahahahahaha!

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 36 points 4 days ago
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What does this actually mean?

[–] QueensGuyaneseMoronTrumper@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Republicans are hypocrites — and have to be forced onto the record defying Dotard Trump — even though he’s a rapist and a pedophile.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 39 points 4 days ago (14 children)

I suspect a lot of the GOP also want rid of Trump now he's won for the second time.

They've put in their time. They're political lifers. They know they don't really need him any more, and frankly his health will take care of that sooner rather than later.

If he follows the rules, he can't run again anyway. If he doesn't then they don't need him to win elections for them, because there won't be any more. They're just stuffing their pockets while waiting for any opportunity to try and get in a bigger chair. Their only worry is that someday, lobbyists might not want to bribe them any more to do their jobs.

I suspect the list is being withheld for reasons other than Donald, who we all know is on it anyway. Plenty of more important shadowy figures who still have something to lose.

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[–] webadict@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Hey, where's all those losers that kept saying the Dems didn't actually want it released? Come on out of the woodwork, ya fucking losers.

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[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hey, that's my representative's motion!

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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

3 Republicans: "I might be a racist, zionist(somehow), corrupt piece of shit that sits down when my fellow Americans are put into concentration camps, who is all for authoritarianism and white nationalism,.... but I ain't no pederass protector!"

a what, Walter?

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[–] thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 4 days ago (39 children)

Too soon to say but spine growth in the dems?

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 71 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (13 children)

The video was fun to watch to watch.

If my understanding is right, it just means this sub committee will now subpoena all documents. Not like it will be available to everybody, just available to the lawmakers. You must be a real pedophile-ophile to want to block your committee from having knowledge.

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[–] PillBugTheGreat@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Good. Finally. Balls and spines and strategies were grown and used.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 56 points 4 days ago (3 children)

So this subpoena means they get to review the documents, and presumably in their original state as well?

So if they get redacted ones, that would be obstruction of justice, but the question becomes did the obstruction of justice happen as a result of his duties of office, or one of personal reasons.

This still could get worse, even if the information that needs to come out does.

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