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[–] RustyShackleford@literature.cafe 279 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 80 points 2 months ago (10 children)

lol i think that might be the worst/best thing I have seen in a long time

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[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cuck boy getting pegged by post top op Garfield is definitely not something I had jotted down in my day-at-a-glance.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 234 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Given that the Internet Archive is the de facto standard way to cite material as seen on a given date


they're a trustworthy party that will probably persist for a long time


that's going to make it harder to cite content on Reddit.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Damn, guess if you want reddit data to train your AI that you’ll need to pay Spez for access.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's important for people writing papers and such who need to cite material.

I wonder if there's some way to use the TLS certificate to get a cryptographically-signed copy of a webpage with timestamp that someone could later validate as having been downloaded on that date. I don't know if existing TLS libraries are capable of that. Like, Web browser menu option "Store cryptographically-signed webpage". Absent a later certificate compromise, I'd think that that'd at least provide people a way to credibly say "this is really what was on that webpage on August 15th, 2026". Like, you'd have to save a copy of the TLS session and then have libraries that could read and validate an already-generated session. The timestamp is already embedded in the session.

Some protocols, like OTR, are designed to specifically not allow that, but AFAIK, TLS could.

EDIT: Well, technically the timestamp is gonna be during the handshake, not tied to the HTTP request internal to the TLS session. It might be possible to game that by establishing a TLS session, holding it open without activity, and issuing a request much later. I'd think that that'd potentially be disallowed by Web servers one way or another, since otherwise you could probably do a denial-of-service attack by holding open a lot of sessions for a long time.

EDIT2: Oh, wait, no, shouldn't be an issue, because the HTTP Date response header is gonna have a timestamp tied to the response.

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[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 198 points 2 months ago (6 children)

As somebody who often ends up using Reddit like Stackoverflow and in some cases needing the Internet Archive (IA) to find the original post after it’s been deleted or garbled, I think this is a wakeup call for those go to Reddit both to get technical help and to post it. More than ever, Reddit is becoming an unreliable place to find answers for old obscure issues and if they are going to lockout places like the IA then I think it’s time people stopped contributing their solutions to Reddit.

[–] cashsky@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Searching anywhere in general is getting shittier and shittier by day. Web searches are riddled with hallucinated AI generated garbage pages. Finding the right answer for difficult problems is getting worse and worse. We are sliding rapidly into Idiocracy.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

yup. continuing to feed them traffic after their repeated attacks on the userbase is just sad. stop using them. yeah it sucks the info is gone, but acting like they'll wake up and change is absurd.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 76 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s another move to protect against AI scraping that isn't paying them for access.

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[–] Keyboard@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I already gave up from Reddit long time ago. Deleted all

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

When RIF died, Voyager became the new forum app for me.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Apollo and Voyager for me so I straight-up retained the same UI.

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[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 65 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As long as the previous collections of archives are still intact. We probably don’t need all of their new spam posts in the wayback machine anyway

[–] hamFoilHat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It is my understanding that if you block the wayback machine from indexing your site it will also delist the history as well.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They do archive sites against the owners wishes when they consider it an important site for public archiving, like some news sites. They are in no obligation to delete the archives and hope they don’t.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Parties have archived the data from pushshift, which cover a lot of Reddit history.

kagis

https://academictorrents.com/details/1614740ac8c94505e4ecb9d88be8bed7b6afddd4

Subreddit comments/submissions 2005-06 to 2024-12

This is the top 40,000 subreddits from reddit's history in separate files. You can use your torrent client to only download the subreddit's you're interested in.

I mean, that won't have the past half year or some low-traffic subreddits, but...

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Just more vindication for my ditching that trash heap of a platform. YT is probably going to be the next platform I ditch as they're going full Reddit now.

It's a matter of time before third-party YT front-ends start getting throttled or outright blocked like third-party Reddit front-ends.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

YouTube's already throttling users in their mobile site. They have these massive channel cards in their feeds and the video titles/thumbnails disappear after a few offerings, leaving you with the ability to blindly click on a video.

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[–] Njos2SQEZtPVRhH@piefed.social 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

People who posted on Reddit ( speaking in the past tense, because who would continue to do so now that we have better things? ) never intended for it to be of limited access. Reddit was a publicly accessible place, and people shared their thoughts and comments on it because it was the frontpage of the internet, so the place of choice to share things with the world. That being scraped should not be a problem. But clearly Reddit didn't want to give you a platform to share your thoughts with the world, they wanted you to donate your thoughts and take it as their property so that they can capitalize on it.

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[–] JakenVeina@midwest.social 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The company says that AI companies have scraped data from the Wayback Machine, so it’s going to limit what the Wayback Machine can access.

Yeah, wouldn't want those AI companies to get all that data for free. Gotta make 'em pay for it.

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[–] bigbabybilly@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That place is becoming more and more of a shithole. Bots, Ads, trolls, garbage mods… deleted the app last month.

[–] espentan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I quit reddit, cold turkey, the day they shut off free API access for 3rd parties. Except for a couple of fairly niche subs I haven't missed it at all.

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[–] User79185@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 2 months ago

This is huge blow to archivism, thanks to corporate greed and enshittification of reddit. Worst MBA filled POS.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, someone might not be paying them for their user generated content (!)

To be fair, it's probably best that history forgets this period of the web...

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that history forgets this period

and thus it repeats

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 months ago

Damn you Spez.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

So reddit will become even less valuable

[–] ozoned@piefed.social 30 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Good plan. Keep locking down your big tech platforms, and we'll all be over here letting folks know where they can find freedom.

[–] aquovie@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Careful. Lemmy is too small to draw the attention of sophisticated, persistent abuse. As a company, Reddit has struggled with revenue and we've all seen those struggles quite publicly. Lemmy instances with those same challenges would probably just fold and close up.

Federated networks give you freedom but the potential for abuse is proportional to that freedom while at the same time, federation is far more expensive taken as a whole.

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[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 28 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I am new to Lemmy, is there a fuckreddit sub?

[–] morto@piefed.social 40 points 2 months ago

In a way, the entire lemmy community is the fuckreddit sub

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would you want to spend more time thinking about a dead site?

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

Yes.

Hi welcome to Lemmy, we hate reddit here.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Fuck Reddit

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

They can keep their shit for themselves, stopped caring a long time ago.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 months ago

fucking reddit...

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (6 children)

OK, I stopped posting on Reddit but left my account and comments in place because I considered them part of the public record. If Reddit is taking that record private, it’s time for me to start removing my content from the platform.

Does anyone know if historical Reddit content will remain in IA? If not, I’m going to have to back up years of content somewhere else.

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[–] Cornpop@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Time to just ignore them and scrape it anyways

[–] Peculiaris@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In the lieu of an IPO u/spez has actively destroyed everything that made Reddit good! Gate keeping the API thinking it'll help with making some bigshot LLM some day lol

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

When reddit has mutated a few more times. They start erasing stuff themselves. It will be lost to time and that fills me with hope.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This company limited search crawlers to google, why are you surprised?

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