I love the idea of paid social media.
Theres so few people who'd pay for it that all the social media companies would, hopefully, collapse and cure us of one of the worst technoplagues of the 21st century.
this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2023
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I'd pay some reasonable subscription, say $1 a month to the maintainer of lemm.ee for the promise to keep my data safe. To Zuck and Elon absolutely not.
I pay like $2 or $3 a month to lemm.ee dev, its worth it to me.
Yeah web site cost money and developers need food. So its adds, subs or donations
Theres so few people who’d pay for it that all the social media companies would, hopefully, collapse and cure us of one of the worst technoplagues of the 21st century.
I would not be that sure. As long as they will offer the choice between paying with cash or with data, social media companies will survive.
Yeah or you pay with your data or you pay with your money and they still steal your data like YouTube premium and etc
It would just be corporations paying for it, and paying for ever more direct access to individuals.
Well, Fediverse it is. When thousand people pay for thousand servers, it's better for everyone - no ads and no fees and the ones hosting the content don't need the money to survive. Some people will voluntarily donate to you, most will not, but in the end everyone is happy.
It works for Wikipedia, which is probably the single most important site on the Internet.
It also works for podcasts, well enough to produce an enormous amount of high-quality content, both from independent productions and networks.
I just wish that Wikipedia didn't donate the money that people donated to it to other charities.
They recently donated a million dollars of their donations to other charitable causes and in theory I'm fine with that but in practice I feel like sort of tricked or betrayed and I just don't like it.
I refuse to ever donate to them again until they swear to never ever do that again.
If it makes you feel any better about not donating, Wikipedia makes money hand-over-fist and absolutely does not need your donation. Their financials are public; they've been in the black for YEARS. They only beg for money because it works. It's gross and exploitative.
Wikipedia also has to regularly beg for donations and is probably something of an outlier.
Pretty much every podcast I've ever heard has sponsors and built-in ads, or at least shout-outs.
I do think Patreon-style funding is a really good model, but ultimately, most people will not pay for a thing if they can get it for free and tell themselves that other people will pay for it instead. Exceptions to that exist, but they're rare.
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*looks around at Lemmy*
I love y'all.
... but also pay to support your instance. Don't be a leech.
Yo can you spot me for a few months?
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To be fair, you always paid it... just not with money...
I refuse to be both.
You want me to dodge ads and try to scrape my data from your service in order to use it? Fine.
Want me to pay for the service? Maybe…
I will not support double dipping while pushing ads in my face. Fuck right off.
I remember when cable tv first started the big promise was that since you were paying for it the cable channels would be ad free. Well that lasted about a week.
If that was the case I might actually pay for cable TV.
Yeah, strong feelings of deja vue.
This would be for an ad free version.
But they'd still farm our data so no thanks.
Yet another reason not to use that stuff, as if we needed more
Would you be opposed to paying to use Lemmy? Someone's gotta pay them bills. Currently it seems to be donation focused, but that might not scale. So what's it going to be Player2@sopuli.xyz, ads, or a "premium Lemmy subscription"/tax/due/contribution?
Some run the servers with the expectation of donations. Some run them at a loss. Some of us selfhost.
There are all a variety of ways to keep Lemmy free, where as Reddit is hosted by Reddit. They decide everything about Reddit.
I worry that donations may not be enough and people say that it's not expensive to run. Regardless, I don't think they're forcing me to identify myself and building profiles on me to sell to the highest bidder. I'll pay Lemmy for that.
If I pay Facebook and Reddit they'll do both even if they say otherwise because I believe they lack ethics.
You can set up a Lemmy instance with just a docker file lmao it's not exactly a large scale operation to upkeep.
If somehow every Lemmy instance went paid only, I'd host my own instance and invite my friends to use it too.
This is basically just paying with your time/hardware/electricity rather than money.
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If this was the only path forward I wouldn't even be here. Thankfully it isn't because I can run my own server/community and just connect it to the feddiverse.
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As in "they pay me to use their garbage?"
If else: "No."
Know what? "Still no." I already don't use it for free, they're gonna have to pay me substantially before I use it.
Agreed! Join me in the real world, it's free.
If they didn’t farm data and charged for it right in the beginning, maybe it would have lasted longer before turning to shit. But demanding payment while farming data is just insane.
Not to mention that they chose the absolute worst time to do this. They are just absolutely despised right now. They are either in the midst of scandal or scandal is just in their rearview. Why would anyone pay for this right now?
Not exactly. It's the age of stockholders, and doing what's best for them is the law. They expect unlimited growth
Airline seats could be fixed if the gov had any backbone but social media isn't some essential service so good luck with it.
Social media has a natural moat because what matters it what users are there. As long as social media sites don't federate with each other, there will be an evolutionary pressure to start exploiting and get progressively worse as your users are locked-in and you can exploit them for the profit of your shareholders.
Paying improves the situation because the users are customers and not eyeballs to sell, but still -- they're there for their friends and follows. If they can't get those same friends and follows on another site, you can screw them as hard as you like.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that Meta plans to charge European users $17 a month for an ad-free version of Instagram and Facebook.
Meta joins TikTok, which confirmed it’s testing its own ad-free subscription plan Monday after Android Authority found a prompt for a $4.99 service buried in the app’s code.
X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, has its famous $8-a-month blue check mark (which also comes with fewer ads and other dubious features), and anyone who isn’t already paying YouTube is familiar with its promotions for the $13.99 ad-free experience.
There’s no word from TikTok about its fledgling subscription tests, but the comments sections on videos about the app’s premium plan are full of users who say they’d love to sign up.
This is a radical departure from the business model that ran social media for the past few decades, where you offer your eyeballs to the advertising gods in exchange for free connections to friends and content creators.
Over the last twenty years, airlines have found ways to charge customers for options that used to be free, including checked bags, seat selection, and priority boarding.
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Facebook has been slowly becoming worse, I don't know if it's the algorithm just not showing me stuff I'm interested in, or all the people that posted interesting stuff left, but I'm using it less and less.
Reddit's quality has gone downhill, lemmy is okay but still small.
The algorithm is really trash. I interact with a posts once then the algorithm think i want to see more for days or even weeks. One of my passion is to listen to unpopular hip hop artists yet the algorithm only shows mainstream artists and not even posts about their music but about their personal life instead. I'm glad they added a chronological feed. There's a couple of facebook groups that are interesting like a group about my neighbourhood group or the running group of my city ,it's also great to find local events
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