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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 175 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Want to ignore 26 laws to destroy protected wildlife refuge in order to build Trump's wall for him? Sure! No problem!

Want to do anything that might benefit the poor? "No you stupid progressive. This must be your first election because you don't understand how anything works. Everyone knows that we need a quorum of both houses to convene in a graveyard at midnight under a blood moon on the third Tuesday of the month, in accordance with the infield fly rule. Then, we wait for the appearance of the Great Pumpkin, so that we may know how to proceed."

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Spoken like a true John Oliver, bravo and agreed

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 122 points 2 years ago (49 children)

I wasn’t aware a president could just “waive away” federal law.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 73 points 2 years ago

marking the administration’s first use of a sweeping executive power employed often during the Trump presidency.

It's shitty all the way around.

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[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Student loans: I sleep

Title 42 + building new border walls: Real shit?

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Did you miss todays announcement about student loans relief?

[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes! What was it? Oh my god I hope they're actually gonna do something that affects me for once

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Biden administration has approved debt relief for an additional 125,000 student loan borrowers, totaling $9 billion in forgiveness, the White House said Wednesday.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/04/politics/biden-student-loan-debt-forgiveness/index.html

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 40 points 2 years ago (17 children)

That is literally just them correcting admistrative errors not new relief

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What? From union buster segregationist eulogizing Joe?

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

We're building the wall, Jack brump

Chocolate chocolate chip!

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My first guess is that it was something they had to agree to as part of a deal. Like to keep the government open or something like that. Could very well be wrong though.

[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This was my guess as well but neither the linked source nor any other one I can find explain exactly why he did it.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (5 children)

It just feels so out of left field for the administration. I'm not saying the Biden administration is perfect cause its not, but border walls are not something he has ever given any indication of having as a priority.

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[–] OlPatchy2Eyes@dormi.zone 10 points 2 years ago

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/30/joe-biden-forced-build-donald-trumps-border-wall/

Found this. Basically the claim here is that funds were allocated to this project, and although some of those funds were redirected, congress never deallocated the rest, and therefore they have to continue to be used. I'm not totally convinced but it's a more nuanced take than the comments here.

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[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Won't a wall, supposing it's somewhat effective at mitigating unlawful entry over the surface, simply encourage even more risky behavior such as (more?) tunneling and/or attempts at entering via the Gulf?

Also, for cat lovers out there, you might want to note this detail that just adds to the suffering this will perpetuate:

Concern is shared with environmental advocates who say structures will run through public lands, habitats of endangered plants and species like the Ocelot, a spotted wild cat.

Finally, wouldn't the more modern, humane, and fiscally responsible solution to this whole issue be migration reform such that people can more easily, legally enter the country? More people become citizens, more tax revenue, governments' budgets may still be tight but more manageable (supposing they continue to insist on avoiding taxing businesses more).

Don't get me wrong, though, I realize a big part of why it's not being addressed that way is related to fearmongering, with another big part being exploited migrant labor.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Fun fact, we closed the southern border because of racism in the 1800s. Before then, people could travel freely, and it wasn't a problem in the slightest.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Considering that most illegal immigration happens by people overstaying a visa, not crossing the border, this is mostly performative.

Or at least that was true a few years ago. I don't know if it's changed at all.

[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why??? We're experiencing a shortage of workers for the jobs nobody wants to do and there is an entire wave of people ready to get their foot in the door in our country. They're not criminals either, all the people I know who are immigrants from Spanish speaking countries are kind, practical, outgoing, intelligent and hard workers- they definitely know how to party too. I wish more people would learn Spanish so we could fix this disconnect between the US and its neighbors.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (3 children)

We're experiencing a shortage of workers for the jobs nobody wants to do

We're experiencing a shortage of workers for the jobs no one wants to do AT THE WAGES THE EMPLOERS WANT TO PAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE VULNERABLE TO EXPLOITATION.

There's not a shortage of workers, but of wages.

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[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

"Nothing will fundamentally change"

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

According to government data, about 245,000 illegal entries have been recorded in this region during the current fiscal year.

This is an extremely complex issue, but let’s just consider that number for a minute.

That’s about 671 people every day. About 28 each hour. Damn.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh god oh fuck people moving across an imaginary line

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Those bastards can’t speak American, and they’re taking all those jobs away that I’d never even consider doing!

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[–] Jamie@jamie.moe 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And adding 0.081% to the population every year are stealing all the good jobs uh... checks notes, working in construction and on ranches where actual citizens usually don't want to work anyway.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago

Jobs is just a thing people talked about but was never the actual issue. The issue has always been fear of change. Depending on the list you look at right now, Peso Pluma is between the #1 and #12 artist right now in music. There are areas of the country where knowing Spanish has become a near necessity to own a business.

Depending on how racist they are, it might be some #WhiteGenocide nonsense, or it might be that they have some honestly kind of legitimate concerns about changing culture, or they just don't like seeing all the brown people around. It seems to vary a lot from person to person.

I'm not saying they're right and I'm certainly not endorsing that way of thinking. I just think it's important to understand the real reasons they're all freaking out. It was never really jobs and always plain xenophobia.

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[–] Swim@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

you are missing a key word, recorded. got to assume some arent counted which makes that number even higher, holy feck.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or there's one dude with a merry-go-round, making the number seem higher.

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[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How about we have some proper immigration reform instead? Then we won't have to waste money on stupid walls cause people will be less compelled to cross illegally.

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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

20 miles isn't enough to cover any form of meaningful distance. I wonder what's going on in that county for this to be pushed for, especially since the DHS didn't release any actual details about it.

I suppose a fence would technically count as a wall.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Biden's executive order to halt construction on the wall didn't work too well, did it?

For reference, the Trump administration built 458 miles of wall.

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