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[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 199 points 2 years ago (3 children)

to which an excited Trump — "leaning" toward Pratt as if to be discreet — then told Pratt two pieces of information about U.S. submarines: the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected.

Holy fucking fuck.

This guy needs to be in jail. He’s deliberately leaked sources and methods, national nuclear information, and intelligence on foreign forces. Never in the history of the country has there been such a person in charge of national security. He is such a total waste that he thinks the president of the fucking United States needs to show off in front of foreign government officials by leaking national security secrets.

What an absolute piece of shallow-ego shit.

[–] wolf6152@lemm.ee 105 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And he did it for clout, to impress somebody. He couldn’t even be a normal traitor and do it for money or idealogical reasons.

[–] PupBiru@kbin.social 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

it’s somehow even more stupid imo… like… he blabbed about the fact that he had this information and the other guy would have been like “yeah… we know you know… you’re the fucking president”

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Riiiiight? This is the weird fucking guy who just walks up to someone they fancy at a party, sight unseen, and just blurts out something fucking stupid like "Hey, good lookin'. I drive a BMW." and expects applause or sex appeal. Who the fuck raises these people?!?!

[–] Spellinbee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That reminds me of this Christmas party we had at work, two friends of mine, one of them being a girl I worked with started hooking up, and so when they arrived to the party, the guy called me over, and he was like, hey, don't tell nobody but I've been beating that pussy up for the past 2 hours, I'm like ok man, whatever, I won't tell anybody. Then he turns around and starts calling out to someone else and tells them the exact same thing. I'm like dude, who the fuck cares?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well that's just...graphic and sad. Why would anybody do that?

[–] Spellinbee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Some people are just fucking losers.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In addition, nuclear secrets are a whole category of secret that the President does not have the authority to reveal

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And if he does that for clout, what would he tell if say, someone knew some insider shit he’s been up to?

Someone that has access to top-notch intel gathering.

Someone…. Russian.

Hands down, there’s no doubt Putin knows everything about our military. Everything.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Probably more than Putin knows about his own armed forces.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

There have been folks lock away forever or banned to Russia for doing less than Trump.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 87 points 2 years ago (2 children)

“If that’s all that was discussed, we already know all that,” he told the Times. “We have had Australians serving with Americans on U.S. submarines for years, and we share the same technology and the same weapons as the U.S. Navy.”

This is such bs. If a dem had revealed classified information like this rep's would be frothing at the mouth.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They're frothing at the mouth to imprison Hunter Biden for a gun crime that's pretty much never prosecuted that they're actively trying to get taken off the books.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

If a democrat had done 1/10th of the things trump and his admin did, they would still be freaking out about it. Biden hasn’t even really done anything illegal or questionable and republicans have been trying to impeach him anyway.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We may never know the full extent of the damage to our national security and that of our allies Trump caused. All because of Trump’s inability to just shut the fuck up.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He also causally revealed exactly how incredibly good the visual fidelity of our geosynchronous surveillance satellites are because he wanted to brag about it on Fox.

Outside of the NRO, nobody even knew that that level of optical fidelity was even possible with modern technology. That shit is amongst the most classified stuff in the country. Right up there with, you know, exactly how close one of our SSNs can get to various types of Russian subs without getting detected.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The image was cleared for release and redacted before release, hence the black square in the top left.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You’re not getting what I’m saying.

Even in redacted form, the imaging capabilities are quite far beyond what commercial satellites can do. Trump insisted that he was going to publicly release the image (and thus implicitly reveal the optical fidelity and orbital dynamics of what’s probably considered a top-5 intelligence gathering device in the world - and we also likely have the other four, too) simply because he is a man-child with no self control who wanted to troll on Iran for a bit. There was zero strategic gain to be had from revealing that. The effectiveness of the satellite is now substantially reduced, because now state actors know precisely how big a thing can be before it can detect them, as well as the exact angles that you’d need to deploy visual obfuscation to hide a thing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People who hang around him have said - multiple people, many accounts - he’ll just say the same thing over and over, for the entire conversation, for hours.

He ain’t right. Not that it matters a whit to his cult.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Maybe he has dementia. We're just so used to him talking shit that he's getting away with it.

I wonder if that's why he's avoiding the debates?

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, I don't think there's any way he could handle 7-8 other people on the stage at once anymore. That's way too much going on for his dementia addled mind to keep up. But he's also just a cowardly little shit so he'll refuse to debate Biden next year too.

[–] GlendatheGayWitch@lib.lgbt 6 points 2 years ago

From how he's spoken through his campaigns until now, I wouldn't be surprised. He has a tremendous difficulty remembering the topic of a conversation and veers off wildly, often cutting off his own train of thought.

[–] Chemical@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago

Yet he continues to walk free ~ boggles the mind

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If there really was a deep state even half as hostile to donnie as his cultist apes think there is, they would have found a way to dispose of him a while ago.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

2 presidents have been gunned down, but to trump, “no one has ever been treated as unfairly as I have”.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

This thought has never crossed my mind but now that I've read it, I can't imagine it isn't the truth

[–] e_mc2@feddit.nl 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well no shit. If there's one thing consistent with this orange baffoon, it's that he's constantly spiling whatever beans there are to spill. Whether it's self-incriminating blabbermouthing in one of his zillion law suits or casually discussing nuclear secrets with whoever wants to hear them, this sorry excuse for a human being doesn't know when to shut the fuck up.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

He’s not capable of shutting the fuck up. His personality disorders won’t allow him to shut the fuck up. He has zero impulse control. It’s no wonder North Korea, Russia and every other hostile foreign government welcome him with open arms.

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Where all my presidential assassins at these days?

[–] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 7 points 2 years ago

That reminds me of a tweet I saw about about the 2016 release of John Hinckley Jr. from the psych hospital. It went something like this:

“JH Jr to be released from custody”

“Well I hope he’s ready to go back, because we need him again.”

[–] Jackcooper@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That joke on lemmy prob not worth a SS visit

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh I’d never dream of what you’re implying. It was just a simple question

[–] Lioffproxy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Playing for team trump, riding in lil rascals with their ar's in each bloated sausage fingered hands.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Neck and neck with Buchanan

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

lol at the “former Australian ambassador to the US” angling for that trump admin 2 job, good job lapping it up salon

[–] guidedlight@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Murdoch political media machine started in Australia, but found its home in America.

Because of mandatory voting laws, Australia has voted out the right wing Murdoch endorsed party in every Australian state and federal government (except one, and that state government looks set to be thrown out soon too).

This “former Australian ambassador” is pretending his party is still relevant, maybe it is in America.