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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Explanation: The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was a 'non-aggression' pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany which outlined carving up Eastern Europe between the two polities. In accordance with the pact, the Soviet Union invaded Poland with Nazi Germany in 1939.

Soviet apologists often claim that it was 'just' a non-aggression pact, which raises the question why the fuck they were assisting Nazi Germany genocide Poland, and why the pact involved carving up the Baltic states. The Soviets would go on to supply Nazi Germany with important war materiel until 1941, when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you actually reason with an authoritarian about politics in the first place?

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Not generally. The best in most cases to be done is to make it clear that their misinformation is just that - and vile and reprehensible besides.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

reason

Interesting choice of verb. I guess it differs from "argue" as it requires a willingness to consider the other's ideas.

Because, of course you can argue with them. Many have more than 2 braincells to rub together.

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cowbee @ lemmy . ml has an entire essay prepared about how they were actually “protecting” Poland from the Nazis by invading it. if you mention the brutal soviet repression of the polish in response they will call fake news lol.

Fascinating the lengths they go for apologia narratives.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does it even really matter if they where the good or bad guys during ww2? It changes nothing about them invading Ukraine.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right that it changes nothing about Russia's invasion of Ukraine being reprehensible, but those are two different polities, with different leadership.

[–] bier@feddit.nl 8 points 1 month ago

True, but this comes up a lot when discussing the war in Ukraine.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tankies must have amazing oral skills the way they suck off Stalin 🥵.