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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 96 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Zero respect for people who "sympathize" with Palestinians, but who instantly condemns fighting back against their occupation.

Are Palestinians meant to just sit there and die slowly while we feel sorry for them?

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

there were two reigns of terror but liberals ignore one of them every time

[–] NPa@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

picard-annoyed There are TWO reigns of terror!

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

"Liberals don't believe in politics anymore, only in bearing witness to suffering."

[–] GriffithDidNothingWrong@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Can the hungry go on a hunger strike? Non-violence is a piece of theatre. You need an audience. What can you do when you have no audience? People have the right to resist annihilation"

Arundhati Roy

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Damn that's good

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

MLK Birmingham Jail letter

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The purpose of Qassam rockets isn’t to inflict casualties- it is to disrupt normal everyday routine, which Israel has been doing to Gaza for 75 years.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They rarely kill anyone. But they do cause Iron Dome to fire very expensive counter-missiles.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Given the limited materiel that Hamas has, if their primary objective was to “kill Jews” firing a large number of small, poorly aimed rockets vaguely Northeastward is an incredibly inefficient way of doing it.

[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 40 points 2 years ago

but my us-foreign-policy says it's terrorism

[–] eXAt@hexbear.net 33 points 2 years ago

Stealing a post from the trueanon subreddit: “Gaza is both morally and conceptually the same as the Warsaw Ghetto”

[–] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I support the Palestinian armed struggle. However does a UN resolution mean anything? I know that in US politics, resolutions are just symbolic and don't carry force of law.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

General Assembly resolutions are helpful signposts of international law but not a binding source of international law. For something to be a point of customary international law, it needs to have jus cogens and state practice. In simple terms, countries need to believe that it is law and act accordingly.

GA resolutions are useful as statements of jus cogens (belief that law exists) but not necessarily determinative.

None of this is relevant to your question though, since the US does not abide by international law.

[–] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

When you hear about “international law” it’s essentially just UN resolutions and treaties

[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

Starve the fascist settlers for blood and soil and watch as they begin to cannibalize one another.

[–] ahshidahfuck@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

me when rules-based international order

[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Well aktually

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

If we're talking about international law it's worth noting that an illegal war still results in a legal occupation which is actually a good thing otherwise international law about how countries can treat civilians wouldn't apply to the occupation

[–] tra@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Armed resistance is one thing, massacring civilians is another.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 80 points 2 years ago (3 children)
[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago

I hope they eat shit and die.

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago

Holy fuck that image is the purest of rage fuel. Would set fire to that house while occupants asleep/10

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago

I am glad you agree ! its an important moral Issue.

Hopefully the appartheits regime thats denies the natives every right to their land and citizenship will finally learn that " you do unto others as you want others do unto you "

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes, israel shouldn't massacre civilians.

[–] tra@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nor should the Palestinians....

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

don't put civilians at the front lines of your settler project

[–] tra@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I didn't put anybody anywhere, I was born into this shit just like the Palestinians.

[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 64 points 2 years ago (1 children)

bet you can leave unlike the Palestinians though

[–] tra@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] DoiDoi@hexbear.net 67 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

lol colonizer got banned

eat shit

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 65 points 2 years ago

if your government kills a palestinian to give their home to you and you happily accept it, I won't be crying when the other palestinians come to kill you. but not prefering this happens

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

I agree, hence why this is a necessary step to stop Israeli terror bombings

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Absolutely. The zionist entity should stop massacring civilians. They should also keep their own civilians safe by not putting them on other people's land where they are subject to forceful removal.

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

if ~~Russian soldiers~~ settlers don't want to die, they can just go home

[–] princeofsin@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Exactly! Israel needs to stop killing and oppressing the Palestinians

[–] Redcedar@lemm.ee 44 points 2 years ago

Your sentiment is right, but your logic falls short. How would you describe what Israel is doing to Palestinian civilians, and also does that mean if a nation invaded another sovereign nation, they can say they’re not military, they’re civilians and therefore you cannot resist? Help me understand your perspective.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

Which side is doing that again?

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

Palestine is doing the former and the Israeli response as always is the latter

[–] Mylemmy@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Yes but targeting civilians... Not the same

[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

i also think they need better rockets , but without the Blockade lifted thats not possible sadly. israel does not allow it ... Its helps the Israelie narrative i think , thats why they dont give Hamas precision bombs..

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

the IDF has been known to false flag as palestinian resistance and kill israeli citizens in order to stir up even more hatred of palestinians. also stop defending settler colonialism with your tiresome and algorithmic both-sidesism that you doubtless apply to every issue without the slightest analysis.

[–] makotech222@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

they're not 'civilians', they're settlers.