Accurate back then as well.
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The only difference is we had hope we could change it for the better back then.
It wasn't new so if you had hope then and none now you weren't looking at all the facts.
I was 11 so correct.
Also this.
I started being angry about it about the time I became an adult.
It wasn't new, but look where we were. The main things are we had spent years reducing the deficit, we didn't have PAC and Super PACs. There is a large difference between then and now.
Foreign policy was similar (well I guess having the president transparently trying to shakedown every country and large corporation on the planet is new). It's just now all starting to be directed inwards (i.e. "imperial boomerang").
2001 was pre Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah we poked in other countries business and did shady stuff. However, we didn't drain our economy fighting a pointless forever war yet.
Vietnam, and Korea...they'd like a word.
The war that ended in 1975? That was a different era.
Right...a twenty year war doesn't count if it wasn't done within the last 20 years. Got it.
We're looking at the difference between 2001 and 2025. That's a difference off 24 years. You're bringing up something that ended 26 years before that... I'm not saying it doesn't count, but it wasn't the most relevant thing even in 2001. I think the longest peace time in modern US history is more relevant than the decades old war. In fact I would even assert that the peace time was far more important. It was precisely because of this long peace time that we were prosperous and had an optimistic view of the future.
We've been at war most of the U.S. existence. What are you on about? Literally like 10 years of the U.S. existence has been without a declaration of war.
And its relevant specifically bcz you are referencing forever wars as if the Afghanistan/Iraq invasions are the only ones that ever happened.
Thanks for proving my point that the peace time was so important in the context of 2001.
We’re just more aware now. Why do you think they want to get rid of “leftist media” and censor Wikipedia? Because they mention Charlie Kirk’s racism? Nah buddy it goes WAY deeper than that.
They miss when we all looked at Desert Storm and went “oh well Saddam is bad so I guess we have to do this” instead of “Bibi and Israel are doing a genocide!”
They preferred us blind.
If we're being real it's only an Okay Satan.
Great as in Large, because the Little Satan is Israel.
MAGFO
Ok Saudi Arabia, pots and kettles buddy.
Didn't they just give the Great Satan's leader a golden airplane and his kids 2 billion dollars?
apologies, the plane was Qatar.
Is it Great Satan behavior to bribe The Smelly Vizier of Satan?
I'd have gone with the slavery and sexism thing myself
Imagine how much better off we’d all be if the US pursued renewables to become truly energy independent so there was no more petrodollar incentive for foreign misadventure. Imagine an end to all the oil wars
Yeah, I kinda had it figured out back then as well.
I'm guessing by your instance that you're Canadian?
I was just a (European) kid in 2001, and I believed profoundly that Bush was evil and incompetent, but this did not extend to America as such. I didn't understand enough of American history yet to understand that the current situation was not an anomaly. I don't think I truly understood before after Obama.
Yeah, when you're neighbours, have a shared history, and consume the majority of their media, you have a better perspective.
Satan was the good guy.
Same with the House of Saud
Every generation always thinks they're the first...
To anyone who thinks the OP made a good point: you should read about anti-Vietnam war protests. The Kent state massacre might be a good place to start.