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[–] iii@mander.xyz 46 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"They lived in a shack at the edge of town"

They had their own place? Sweet!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

it's even better when you remember that "edge of town" translates to "smack dab in the centre of the city" these days, you could live well into the countryside and still be closer to the centre than many people who live in the urban area now.

it's so fucking depressing to think about how much countryside has just been absorbed into endless sprawl that isn't even good, everything went to shit in the 60's when we stopped building densely

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The issue is the quality and food safety of those things.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Not really. The concern is the access in diet variety. The person in the screenshot can easily go out and get something they're craving. Not true for midevil persons.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Much like today, that's dependent on your current liquidity... I'm sure you could pop by the nearby inn or market and grab whatever striked your fancy if you could afford it.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Even a king couldn't get sound nutrition by today's standards throughout most of history, simply because of availability. There just weren't much of any fruit and vegetables in the winter. Even when I was poor I could still get mixed frozen vegetables whenever I wanted (well, 0700-1900 Mo-Sa) for like 3€/kg. Sure, there's food deserts today, but it surely isn't as widespread an issue as it used to be.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, yes, there's always an edge case.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 3 points 3 weeks ago

It is definitely also a question of quality. Not just because the concept of food safety was non-existant back then, but if we are talking about a really poor person, the bread and cheese (and mostly there would be no cheese at all) would be stale, the wine full of dregs, but watered down so much that they would barely be able to taste how vinegary it was.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Well don't worry about that, RFK Jr is going to get rid of all those pesky FDA inspections. Will be right back there no question.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

Conversely, me eating a whole chicken and pretending I'm King Richard the Lionheart about to have his disguise blown for eating too rich on the road:

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I do often think about how amazing it is that bread, one of the most delicious things in the world, just happened to also be a basic staple

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Wasn't the bread filled with...uh, fillers, the wine closer to vinegar, and I'm scared about the cheese on principal?

That being said, with more hygenic food practices it does sound nice.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Your bread is filled with sawdust, they just call it cellulose filler.

Your cheese is an oil product.

What you have in your favor is being able to go to a store and buy a fruit only grown in southeast Asia from 8,000 miles away.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The last one has the catch that it has to be a marketable fruit.

There are exotic fruits that "bleed" and such but don't look good on a stall and therefore not profitable. Botanists might know more.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

My cheese is definitely not an oil product...but my cheese also doesn't come out of a can

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think bread in the mediaeval period was generally filled with fillers. It might've not been good quality, dependent on your means, but I don't think there was much of an issue of things like sawdust being used.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

no, bakers did that for a time and everyone hated it so fucking much that laws were passed that meant bakers caught doing anything even vaguely questionable could literally be given the death penalty for it.

Being a baker in the past fucking sucked because bread was basically holy

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] iii@mander.xyz 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 3 weeks ago

I see you know your judo well

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Both bread and cheese were moldy and not the good kind of molds

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Probably because thats all your ancestors ate for a couple generations and we get our gut microbiomes from our mother, who got it from their mother, and so on (assuming you were breast fed)

[–] Flickerby@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

These rich fuckers could afford wine??