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Hey everyone! We're moving to Piefed.social! You can find the comm at

!noncredibledefense@piefed.social

Hope to see everyone there!

Feed for all migrated comms here: https://piefed.social/f/pugmigration

Will I need to change my account to participate?

Nope! Piefed is compatible with Lemmy instances, so you can keep using your current account!

Why move the comm?

Nothing in particular against Lemmy.world - the admins here have made some amateurish mistakes, but I'm willing to accept that we're all human and running a big instance is not easy, especially for a volunteer team. The issue is with the Lemmy devs.

There's been long-standing tension with the Lemmy devs - namely, that they use their influence over their flagship instance - .ml - to enforce the removal of acknowledgements of incidents of genocide and imperialism that they like. If you're morbidly curious, !MeanwhileOnGrad@sh.itjust.works documents this, with things like acknowledgement of the Holodomor or refutation of the claim that Ukraine deserves to be genocided by modern Russia being removed by dev/admin fiat.

This places users who are not genocide deniers or supporters in an awkward position - namely, that either we refrain from contributing to the devs - damaging the longevity of the platform we're using - or that we contribute to them despite their horrific views - enabling them to continue spreading and creating a space for genocide denial.

With that in mind (and I was a Kbin user initially precisely because of my discomfort with the Lemmy devs - I hope Ernest is okay, wherever he is), I've been keeping an eye out for a viable Lemmy Fediverse alternative for a while now. Piefed's main dev has a good head on his shoulders, and it appears to be a robust platform. I think Piefed is ready, and I'm just medicated enough at the moment to make the effort of revving up the comms from scratch and writing up this screed.

Why Piefed.social specifically?

A good question. I considered Piefed.world, as the organization .world belongs to is larger than Lemmy/Piefed and robust. Anarchist.nexus was right out, on account of it being an offshoot of dbzer0, whose admins have chosen to indulge in very concerning Uyghur genocide denial and tolerating Holodomor denial on its instance. Ultimately I decided to give Piefed.social a chance on account of a coherent core mission statement in favor of democracy and rational discourse.

Unruffled denying Uyghur genocide

Holodomor denial left up in a comm where the only two mods are dbzer0 admins, they both participated in the thread, the material was reported, it was specifically pointed out to one of them, and the comm regularly removes Zionist genocide apologia and denial under the (legitimate) justification that genocide denial is against the rules. Apparently, the Holodomor isn't a REAL genocide in the admins' eyes.

Dbzer0 has instance-banned my main account for posting about this on .world, and will likely instance ban this account too, eventually. So if you're a Dbzer0 or Anarchist.nexus user wondering where I went, that's your answer.

What will happen to this comm?

Well, I won't be participating in it anymore except to remind people of the move, and hopefully most users will follow suit and join the Piefed.social community. I'll stick around to remove spam, but that's about it.

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[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

!noncredibledefense@piefed.social

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for the link. I noticed a drop off in content, but didn't see a post about the migration.

[–] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, when they moved the link didnt work for me so I kinda forgot about it until now.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 week ago

You may not see anything due to my main accounts being instance banned on Blahaj.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I was thinking of switching to piefed. The whole fractional resource consumption of the server seems like a pretty big win, morality aside.