We NEED the public services provided by the government. What we need to figure out is how to remove the authoritarians and build a stronger democracy.
If the government shuts down I will be happy. If it doesn't, I won't be mad.
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I won't be happy. Last government shutdown saw our national parks get destroyed by visitors due to the lack of enforcement as well as certain businesses taking advantage of the brief shutdown to illegally harvest resources from the parks.
Honestly there are two paths to removing a fascist dictator: General strike that marches onto the Capitol and hold those accountable, or 2A as the Founding Fathers explicitly detailed and intended for The People to use.
Before some numbnut goes "hurr wot can people do" forgot the recent uprising in the Phillipines, Brazil prosecuting their dictator, and going further back how America gained independence from the British ala guerrilla warfare.
Bear in mind, the revolution was not all guerrilla warfare, the continental army was the main force fighting the British.
And that’s not even to mention the French involvement.
General strike is never going to happen, the USA is huge and spread out.
Asking for a civil war is not absurd, I certainly see the merits in it, but it will also cause many unnecessary deaths and great suffering while also emboldening Russia and China to do whatever they like unchecked.
The GOP proposed budget bill is attrocious and honestly cannot even be stopped if every DNC votes in unison because it can still pass via reconciliation, which makes outrage against the inevitable pretty impotent, but setting the government employees up for unpaid work or not working at all until the 2026 is also not ideal.
One could argue that those deaths would be necessary.
You first.
The way I see it is there is still a way out through voting and if tbis country continues to vote for fascism then maybe it isn't worth saving.
Also because China and Russia are advocating for the civil war that makes me not want to do it because fuck China and Russia.
talk like this is volunteering to die
I suppose one must ponder if the alternative is considered living. For many, it is not.
Aight you die first then
"The government" can be your hyperlocal full-participation commune council. OPs post is specifically about the US federal government, not governance in general. Eventually that machine is going to break itself irreparably (Some may argue it already has), and seeds need to be ready to grow from it's corpse so that as few people as possible fall down through the gap in support.
I have no strong opinion on the U.S. federal government. But if the federal reserve calls it quits, you can kiss the global reserve currency goodbye.
the federal reserve? that's what “the fed” usually means. I'm thinking you mean the federal government? either way, I hope you have a backup plan.
Stonewall nazis!