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[–] barkingspiders 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

is this where we blame the kids for doing what we told them and what worked for us?

[–] m_f@discuss.online 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, some people want to take the easy out and blame the youths. I think it's interesting to consider what should happen though. People want to get ahead in life and you can't really blame them. Do we need to burn it all down and go fully automated luxury communism, or is there a way to fix it?

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Hey, kiddo.. Remember how we used to say college will improve your chance of employment and quality of life? Turns out that is not true, because too many of you got educated. So now we don't have people to do all the menial jobs and act as a servant for the upper class. Therefore stop learning. And be uneducated, and you will be rewarded by employing you with the most rich people on earth. (Clarification: as servants)

[–] m_f@discuss.online 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This reminded me of this concept:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_overproduction

Elite overproduction is a concept developed by Peter Turchin that describes the condition of a society that has an excess supply of potential elite members relative to its ability to absorb them into the power structure. This, he hypothesizes, is a cause for social instability, as those left out of power feel aggrieved by their relatively low socioeconomic status.

[–] sorter_plainview@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how it will be if there are no elites? And all are equal?

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn't this start with millenials? We were basically told that anything outside of a desk job was a failure.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep. In the 80s you were already a failure if you had to quit school and do something with your hands. That was an official propaganda that even the kids believed.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I fairly recently visited my high school as part of the 20 year reunion. They have dramatically changed course on that. The shop classes they cut while we were going are back. The halls of the shop classes had a bunch of pictures of different trades and how much they earn. The whole curriculum has changed to focus more on job skills. It looked like they really try to empower the kids to explore the things they're interested in.

[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's a good thing for them. Repair cars if you like tinkering with cars, write programs if you like tinkering with computers.

I remember that plumbers were seen as failures, while the father of a friend had a big car and fucktons of money while working as a plumber.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I am aware BlackRock wrote this headline, because an honest one would read:

Us fascist plutocrats do not want to hire educated folks. So enjoy the manufactured recession Gen Z, and compromise yourselves.

Time to form syndicalists, guilds, and coops, and bleed the fascists dry.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone should just stop working. Fuck it, the world should stop serving a few billionaires, soon to be trillionaires, and we should withhold labor until it stops being exploited