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Prominent .ml'r on what's a "propaganda outlet" (infosec.pub)

submitted 1 week ago by cm0002@piefed.social to c/meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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Just yet another example of the kind of "sources" allowed on .ml and the rest of the Triad

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I swear, these guys are just trolls, and not serious.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

they're super cereal

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"I dont like those other sources because they don't push the narrative I want"

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 23 points 1 week ago

It's a little more subtle even than that. It is "OF COURSE we need to post unapologetic cheerleaders for (side A), because literally everything else in the world is cheerleaders for (side B)!"

The second part isn't even usually true, but even if it were, the logic doesn't make any sense. The solution to "not enough truth" is not "more of the right type of lies, to counterbalance."

[+] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

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[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Wish I knew what the fuck we did to end up on that list. Is this genAI stuff?

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Anarchists are also considered tankies nowadays

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Everyone to the left of their favorite party is a Tankie. It's why Trump and Kalama call each other communists.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't call them tankies but they are definitely politically crazies

[–] hatorade@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because they don't like anarchists, because they're leftist.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a broad stroke, members of this community are leftist as well. Honestly I don't think there's any right on Lemmy.

But it's because they federate with Hexbear

[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol -1 points 6 days ago

Honestly I don't think there's any right on Lemmy.

Depends on who you ask. If you voted for Kamala, some people here will consider you part of the Right.

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I'm curious, why have you added dbzer0 to that list?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've heard a lot of things, but nothing that I have verified or really needs repeating. But I think the fact that the UniversalMonk who has been banned from most of the larger servers is welcome there. It would definitely put a lot of people off.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

UniversalMonk?

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world -1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

If you don't know who that is, color yourself lucky. Roughly a year and a half ago on-world. They were creating something like a community a day at one point. It was tens or hundreds of communities they were soul moderator of. With some weird posting. Not sure whether it was mental illness and too much time or large language models. Combative and dogmatic behavior in the section of many posts outside their own communities. Which if I remember correctly, got them banned permanently from many of them, and ultimately from the instance itself. To which they created new Alts for a while. So much so it was and still is a bit of a running joke to call any new random behaving oddly universalmonk for many people.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 23 hours ago

Was never 100's of communities. In fact, I think they are still up.

.world people were actually mad because I advocated voting third party. I voted Socialist party and you all got mad because you think it caused Trump to win.

Which is hilarious, because even if every single third party voter would have voted Harris, Trump still would have won. That's how big his margin was. lol

And you are still salty. And I still stand behind my vote and will vote third party in the next election too.

Thanks, friend! :)

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I'm curious if that's antiyanks.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No. People hate me because I advocated voting 3rd party. And I voted Socialist party. That really really made .world mad since it was election time. But antiyanks is in a whole other world. I have no idea what his deal is.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

you advocated third party in the US?

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yep. I know that may make you mad, but I'll keep advocating 3rd party.

I was pushing third-party voting before it was “cool.” Now a lot more of Lemmy’s fine with it, mostly because people are fed up with both major parties. But I was saying it before the election.

Back then people here lost their shit. They claimed I was a pro-Trump Russian troll sitting in a warehouse, typing on Lemmy (!) to dodge the front lines of the war. One guy, who later turned into a stalker, even said I was getting paid in “Russian bitcoinz.” Many said that I was on Trumps campaign. lmao

They swore I was only pushing third-party votes to swing the election. That makes no sense. First, Lemmy isn’t big enough to sway any national race. Second, even if every single person who supported a third party had voted for Harris, she still would have lost. The margin of Trump voters and non-voters was too wide.

Do I think Trump is better than Harris? No. That’s why I didn’t vote for him.

I voted Socialist Workers Party. I considered the Green Party at first, but the SWP fit my beliefs better. And before anyone calls me a “Tankie,” I don’t even know what a tankie is. I backed SWP because their platform was pro–workers’ rights, plain and simple.

In fact, I created the Socialist Workers Party lemmy community BEFORE the election in 2024. Here's proof: !swp@sh.itjust.works

All my posts on .world are still there. My post history here is still here. I also have a community where I post news links from any news source of any political leanings. But by far, most of my posting are and always have been pro-union and pro-workers rights articles.

I've also had articles published in the Socialist Workers Party newspaper and other pro-union publications, but somehow Lemmy still says I'm pro-Trump. All because I didn't bow down to the Biden/Harris Lemmy bullies. LMAO

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nah. UniversalMonk tends to be very fake friendly and passive agressive, Yankee Boy prefers being outright hostile and aggressive towards whoever they deem a Zionist, which is everybody. Monk is irritating to deal with, but they don't make thousands of accounts in a one-man war on a tiny social media platform because unlike lil ol' Yanks, Monk has most of their marbles intact.

[–] UniversalMonk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

My marbles are indeed intact. So far, so good. Nice of you to notice. Thanks, friend!

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're outright trolling. If monk was trolling and not just obsessive and uninformed then they'd be a master troll compared to antiyank. Who's just a juvenile, tanky, edge lord. Only after saying those words just now, do I realize how redundant they are.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

idunno if yankiespoo is trolling, he's pretty deranged. Keeps DMing me images of dead kids and stuff and saying that I should go to prison for killing them

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At first I thought it was trolling, but it's pretty clear it's someone who is very, very unwell in the head. Everything they do is so far beyond what a sane, rational individual would do.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

yeah antiyanks is legitimately psychotic

idunno why he thinks I support israel

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 2 points 6 days ago

LOL, who knows then

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eh, dbzer0 doesn't seem that tankie, they're more of ignorant/misguided leftists.

But yes, db0 advocating against voting is sus as hell.

As for ani.social? Idk all I know is that one weird "anarchist" claiming to be from Japan having cringe takes like "if you run a small bussiness, you support capitalism/fascism" (paraphrased).

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

I just block what I don’t want to see, which includes half naked anime girls

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

Tankies defending capitalist oligarchies. lovely

[–] TarantulaFudge@piefed.zip 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

lemmy.ml sucks, if anyone is controlling the narrative it's them. Some kind of bizaar nest of liberals that would rather have this trump disaster than vote for Kamala because she's not left enough. We're on the same team people, wake up!

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago

Don’t confuse ML’ers with liberals, progressives or even leftists - they are none of those things.

There is a reason they are derisively referred to as ‘Tankies’; they’re the sort of people who would cheer on the tanks during the Tianamin Square massacre.

Their entire world-view starts and ends at US/The West = Bad, China/Russia = Good. Everything else beyond that point is largely pageantry. While they do hold some views that overlap with leftist principles (pro-Palestine, pro-worker etc.); they overlap with far-right (pro-Fascist) principles that will over-write others.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Lol Dems aren't on the "same team", its more like begrudging temporary allies in a WW2 scenario. Like how the Tankies temporary sided with the Liberals against fascists. Same here, but this time the "allies" are the progressives and the "centrist" dems, against the fascists/tankies, these centrist/corporate dems aren't really our friend lmao. Primary the fuck out of them, but vote for the Dems in the general.

Edit: Phrasing

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Currently they're in the 1939s WW2 scenario. I.e. tankies and nazis allied together against mildly confused liberals and centrists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean the answer is, that as a NATO nation, we don't need anyone to 'approve' our news sources. But also, anything sanctioned by Russia is full of unadulterated removedry

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[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ahhh, the classic hurr, durr supporter of NATO, NATO shill, NATO propaganda!!!

Btw, I hope some tankie sees this lmao:

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Where is that this post has been captured by NATO video?

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Technically all news outlets are propaganda outlets, it's just some work for the state.

... others work for ideologies, private individuals, companies, or economic systems.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm confused here are you saying that story about YouTube unbanning those accounts was false? Cuz that was reported widely.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if i answer "Yes"?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Bampersand? 😉

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