That is 100% in character for MAGA: at the same time they screech "dOn'T cAlL uS nAzIs" while also saying "Hitler did many good things"
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The only good thing Hitler did was kill Hitler.
True, but counterpoint: he also killed the guy who killed Hitler
What an evil bastard! Ok, so who killed the guy who killed Hitler?
You're not going to believe this...
"You just people called everyone a Nazi" while lining up the concentration camps
"I voted for Mr. Hitler because he'd be good for the economy. I didn't go in for all that Jew-killing stuff. You can't blame that on me." - German citizen, 1946
Until Hitler.. self-hitlered.., most Germans had no idea they even had concentration camps or that genocide was being done in their name. They thought they were winning the war, and they saw the infrastructure/economic improvements and thought Hitler was doing a great job. One would hope everything being actively video recorded/ reported this time would make a difference but, if my experience with my MAGA family is indicative of what's happening with the rest of the MAGAts, they're just as ignorant. I forced my fiance's newsmax-addicted grandma to watch a video of ICE beating a woman, in front of her small child, while they were kidnapping her husband, and Mema hasn't said shit about politics since. She was genuinely shocked.
That's not entirely true. Most Germans absolutely knew something was up with the Jews, and others, and pretended not to. Out in the country, where the Concentration Camps were, towns and villages knew what was happening, and could smell the crematoriums. Many of the workers at the camps lived in the villages, and businesses in the village did business with the camps. Many had to have seen, or at least heard about the conditions.
In the cities, it was pretty obvious that Jews were disappearing, usually in harsh and violent round-ups in which any resistance was met with instant lethal force. Neighbors, employers, local business people, etc. certainly noticed that the local Jews, gays, activists, religious figures, etc. were disappearing. Of course, EVERYBODY had been exposed to years of the most ferocious anti-Semitic rhetoric, far worse than what we hear today about undocumented people in America, which included permanently eliminating Jews from the entire planet, so they could pretty easily guess where those people had gone, never to be heard from again. As bad as MAGAs are, we haven't heard them openly calling for an official policy of extermination...yet. I truly believe it is coming, though.
Of course, after the war, nobody was going to admit they knew something was going on, and did nothing about it. Better to just act ignorant. Better to be thought to be stupid, than to be thought to be evil.
All of that makes sense. I was citing a documentary I watched on YT years ago, which, I believe, was citing an author that traveled Germany after the war. Your explanation is definitely what was going on haha
So if you're one of those generals, do you recite the new oath or do you allow them to purge everyone loyal to the Constitution?
Itd be nice if they faked the bad oath to secretly protect the constitution.
This is actually a tactic listed in the official CIA “Simple Sabotage” handbook. Basically, if you can’t overtly sabotage things by blowing them up while maintaining your cover, work to sabotage things from inside instead.
Get a job in middle management, and do everything in your power to live up to the term “middle manglement”. Do your job as poorly as possible while still maintaining plausible deniability. Make it difficult for people around you to do their jobs. Give other managers bad info. Sow division via gossip. Divert employees towards busy work so they can’t focus on important tasks. Waste budgets. Ensure deadlines get missed, while demanding unreasonable deadlines for other teams. Et cetera…
And I can guarantee that generals will be well aware of this fact. Plenty of them got into their spots by being war dogs, but they won’t be stupid.
Years ago, I read an article by a Democrat who got a job working for a local Republican campaign office, just so he could be incompetent at it.
While he was sabotaging things, he caught the flu. He came to work anyway, and smeared his flu-ridden saliva on doorknobs, computer keyboards and mouses, etc. Within a week, most of the office was sick, in the middle of a big campaign.
You just described every middle manager ever.
What if all middle managers are just plants from competing companies?
Just thinking out loud here.
Faking it also give them power. If all the generals go in an give an oath to the furher, they don't all have to mean it for it to have far reaching effects.
But if you're not going to take the oath, I feel like you have to have a real plan for resistance beyond just get escorted... out.
It doesn't help that our government was founded with a core principle of the military being subservient to a civilian command.
These are smart people entrusted with the most powerful military in history. If anyone can find a strategy to prevent the Fourth Reich, it's them.
Last year I heard a talk by retired Admiral Stravidis, who among other things was supreme commander of NATO for a few years. He pointed out that by the time somebody makes the rank of General or Admiral they will have sworn that oath a bunch of times. They renew that oath each time they are promoted etc. They also would have administered that oath to countless other soldiers & sailors over the years.
Fire all the generals and admirals, and guess what? They are replaced by junior officers who have repeated the oath to the US Constitution almost as many times. There’s always the chance that some may decide to bend the knee to Trump, but there are significantly more that likely won’t.
Goodness, this is fake right? Please?
This is happening. There is NO waiting it out and shit changes. MAGA destroyed the United States of America. You get that, right?
You may go to work tomorrow but it won’t be under a democratic republic.
Tomorrow is Sunday
Millions of people work in the service industries each and every Sunday.
LOL! Nah. Everyone will vote against the Republicans in 2026 and everything will go back to normal, don’t you know.
Perpetually online motherfuckers moving around through inertia alone with no capacity for anything that remotely feels like confrontation.
We’re doomed to this.
I don’t think it’s just the perpetually online. I think Americans in general still think they will be able to actually vote in the mid terms
That too. There aren’t going to be any midterms. Any elections we do have will be in the style of the Putin regime.
So is this in response to the largest “secret” general meeting in US history that took place a few days ago?
You are misinformed. The meeting was announced a few days ago and is scheduled for next week.
No fucking way. No fucking way.
No one will convince me this is real.
this is real.
this is really happening.
Another source could help:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/hegseth-self-centered-reason-calling-221749640.html?
Actually can't tell if this is satire.
(Pls tell me this is photoshop)
It's real but articles I've found seem to assume he was being sarcastic. I didn't see anywhere that he declared it so, it just seems to be an assumption based on "he couldn't possibly have meant that"
Is there another interpretation of this that isn’t sarcastic?
Does anybody actually read this and think he meant, “wow, that is a cool story?”
That said, the two ways I come up with to interpret a sarcastic comment here are:
“Sounds like bullshit. “. Which is plausible in this post facts era I suppose.
Or
“What does this have to do with us?” Which would sure help me sleep at night if I didn’t know exactly what it has to do with us, but afaik, Creepy Pete had called such a meeting for thus far unknown purposes.
The only sane interpretation is that it is sarcastic, but this group of folks have said a lot of things I assumed were sarcastic or jokes in poor taste that turned out to be completely sincere.
Despite the bar being lowered just onto the ground, I'm still on the side of assuming he thinks the comparison is ridiculous and not something worthy of admiration. I just assume he has at least some brain cells active to know how bad the optics would be to engage otherwise, and a hollow 'macho pep rally' seems to be more up his alley than anything vaguely substantitve, for good or for evil.
Looking back at this, apparently it was posted at 4am, so he was probably just wasted.
I also trust his “sarcastic” comment here as much as I would trust a comment that said “yeah but we would never do that”. Which is to say, not at all.
It's real. From the yahoo news article that someone else linked: The defense secretary wrote “Cool story, General” in response to a tweet from retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges about Adolf Hitler gathering Nazi generals in 1935 and them being “required to swear a personal oath to the Führer.”
Obviously no good can come of this domestically, but since all the Generals will be there instead of doing their jobs, it would also be a window of opportunity for China to invade Taiwan.
Yeah. Unless of course it's not the 18th century and it no longer matters where a General is physically located.