this post was submitted on 01 Oct 2025
301 points (99.0% liked)

politics

25910 readers
2478 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That 33% approve of his governance is an amazing stat.

[–] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The same poll shows just 30% approval of the Democratic party. In other words, RFK Jr is slightly more popular than the Democrats.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

I can't work out if people just detach from all reality regarding politics between elections, or if the lizardman constant is growing.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 3 days ago (3 children)

33% of people approve

For real? We're so fucked.

[–] MarkAB@mastodon.world 38 points 3 days ago (4 children)

@Assassassin @vegeta And another 30% can’t be bothered to get off their ignorant dead asses to even VOTE. So you are correct, we are fucked, and getting more fucked every single day.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

voter suppression. non proportional representation.

the pitifully low voter turnout is a systemic issue.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which just means we’re more fucked because to fix the system we need people to vote more.

We’re in a crashing plane and the cockpit is locked.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Elections are run locally. You can get involved.

load more comments (13 replies)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Turnout in 2024 was above the baseline. It was just off the '20 record high, thanks to sharp constrictions in rules for registration and mail-in ballots.

Incidentally, the move to grant universal national mail-in voting in 2020 saw national turnout skyrocket to levels historically enjoyed by states like Wisconsin and Oregon, which already had universal state-level mail-in voting.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'd be curious to know how many of those 33% are actually aware of each thing RFK Jr has done, how many approve each of those things, and how many are just stating their answers here as a way of expressing their support for Trump.

The propaganda bubble most of these people live in insulates them from reality, but at the same time, I'm pretty sure you could invent a fictional Trump appointee and a majority of Republicans would claim they approve of the job they are doing. And you could probably get them to say they support all kinds of crazy shit they don't actually agree with as long as they view the question as a partisan referendum.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a coworker who is anti-vax and also anti-immigrant. This would be utterly unremarkable except that the reason she is anti-immigrant is that she thinks they're all unvaccinated and bringing diseases into this country.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doublethink in the purest form

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That is hilariously, maddenly accurate. You win the day!

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago

I would add on: How many people just know rfk as "that health guru my favorite celebrity talked about".

Never forget that there was a fairly large trend on google of "Did Biden drop out" last year on fucking election day.

People are deeply ignorant. Intentionally so. Just think about all the times over the years you have seen "I am going to stop watching the news for my mental health" and all that.

[–] salacious_coaster 12 points 2 days ago

That tracks. About a third of people are hopeless morons, just in general. Look up any statistic about how many people believe something stupid, it's always about a third.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Does not matter, he will not go away or be removed by Trump.

Popularity polls have no meaning if they are ignored or shrugged off, and the regime in charge is not interested in functioning or suitability for a position anyway.

RFK will only be told to pack his bags if he does something outright disastrous like inject members of trump's family with chlorine.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Now now he is a Kennedy in government, it's entirely possible someone will do it for the meme.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

I mean there are so many options to write ironic things on bullet casings for a man like that. Second brain worm, the final jab, the cure, the list just goes on....

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, these waning numbers for RFK may not mean all that much. According to the Quinnipiac poll, 71% of Republicans still approve of Kennedy as HHS chief. And while some members of the GOP have become more critical of RFK Jr.’s performance, especially following the CDC defection, many are still roundly in his corner—most notably President Donald Trump himself.

71% just from republicans is actually pretty bad...

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That works out to what, something like 20% of all Americans?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Close-ish...

Exactly 33% of respondents said they currently approved of Kennedy’s stint as HHS secretary, while 54% disapproved

[–] khornechips@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It’s that same core of 30% that apparently want to follow the GOP straight to their own graves. As much as Trump is the current problem, there needs to be a reckoning with this rot sooner or later.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's normal human variation.

A chunk of any group of humans just wants someone to confidently tell them what to do.

Unfortunately intelligence and confidence is usually an either/or thing.

Someone who knows their shit and is intelligent is aware of possible flaws with their plan, and is pre-emptively coming up with possible fixes if needed. They will never be 100% confident.

But an idiot with no idea what they're talking about?

That's exactly the type of person to always be 100% confident.

Our monkey brains are wired to think that if someone is that confident, they'd be dead if they weren't also capable.

Generational wealth/power isn't unique to humans, but inherited wealth/power is. With everything else if the powerful parent is gone, the nepo kids lose all status.

That's the disconnect from how we evolved and how we currently live. Especially when we stop educating people so they can think past instincts

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Think of that one guy in the office who is just average. Does their job OK, but your life is better when you don’t have to interact too much with em.

Not really all that interesting to talk to. Maybe has some dull hobbies, probably not all that deep into them. Drives a midsize sedan or a minivan. Can do some household repairs so long as it involves a hammer or duct tape: Probably likes to mow the grass as a good pastime. Sits a lot, enjoys watching the TV. Hasn’t read a book in years.

Now realize that 50% of the population is him or worse.

Hell, 16% of people think nuclear war would be a good idea. So yea, morons.

This one goes out to you, Dan.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think the same percentage of people approved of Nixon even as he got on the helicopter to fly away, an absolute disgrace. It's probably the exact same people in some instances, certainly the exact same type of people...

W probably had similar numbers, and was why his supporters were given the "out" of the astroturfed and completely fake, teabagger movement. The "Tea Party" doesn't exist any more than the "Democrat (sic) Party" does.

I don't know if Taco will go out with similar numbers, but I think something will be done in the aftermath to give these people an out. In the aftermath of Nixon there was no real "out" for the voter, but the rabid right wing set to work on building Bullshit Mountain so that they'd never have to worry about a mainstream media telling their voters something they didn't want to hear...

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Hmm that suggests the remaining ~10% must be from non-Republicans which is really depressing. I suppose he might have fans in the anti-vaxx movement still and a certain percentage of those are non-Republicans so maybe that explains it.

Edit: Just did some napkin math and it comes out to ~12% of non-Republicans approving of him.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

It's probably the "alternative medicine, don't trust doctors" crowd, which traditionally wasn't a particularly right-wing thing but then merged with the right around the pandemic/QAnon time. Some of them must have been left behind.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't just add up D and Rs and expect to get total population...

A bunch of Americans still don't identify as either.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] JustTheWind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

It is both saddening but also wholly unsurprising that the "Tylenol causes autism" is probably a big reason for this. Not just because it's baseless conspiracy slop; No, that would make too much sense. A big part of the divide is because the conspiracy slop enjoyers are upset that it isn't THEIR conspiracy slop that he's peddling. They're mad that he isn't saying this about vaccines first.

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

And that matters how? He is a tick. They all are. They've burrowed into the skin at this point.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Rfk's agenda would go nowhere without people under him doing his bidding

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

Purge the unclean

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I'm not sure the strategy of hiring someone who has personally injected every single drug into his veins at some point in his life to be health chief was ever going to work out.

At least they should give him all the diseases too so we can see if the drugs work!

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Did they ever even fucking start with this dumbfuck?

Taco only "won" by the slimmest of numbers. Most people hate Taco, too, but a lot of apathy and stupidity had people sitting out and therefore, Taco "won". Taco gets in there and puts fElon in there and Bobby Brainworm in there as a giant FUCK YOU to "the left", but most people don't like either of these two douchebags.

People especially hate Bobby Brainworm since what animates Bobby Brainworm is to take vaccines away from Americans so that people, including children, can die of preventable diseases. And he sat there and FUCKING LIED about it during his hearings. And Republicans, the little quislings that they are, didn't care at all that he is a lying liar.

Bobby Brainworm can go fuck himself with his crazy cult of "wellness".

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

"Chapaquiddich: Pinky and the Brainworm" written, directed and produced by JKRowlings

load more comments
view more: next ›